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  • -JOLLYROGER-
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    #21
    During 2006 and 2007 all I watched was MMA. Then In 2008 I watched some mayweather fights and was mesmorized by his technique and grace of his movements and I just told myself "you can't watch that MMA crap anymore. Thay gots no skillss1!@!!"

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    • Spacey1991
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      #22
      Cool, whatever you enjoy... but if you love Boxing like you say you do you could relate to all of us, all of us guys are Boxing fans first regardless of who our favorite fighters are!

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      • Phenomkidd
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        #23
        Originally posted by liam_48@msn.com
        i doubt that very much, Your saying two "people" started wrestling each other and then never threw any punches at one another for many years after wrestling?. Your comment is ridiculous, no human on the planet can be sure when saying "grappling has been around way longer than boxing". For all you know two men may have had an argument 2million years ago and traded blows that is boxing and therefore came before grappling however it could be the other way around but, either way your comment is ****** and ignorant.
        Wrestling the sport has been around longer than boxing the sport. 2 people punching doesn't mean its boxing.
        Last edited by Phenomkidd; 07-29-2009, 03:30 PM.

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        • shadeyfizzle
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          #24
          Originally posted by liam_48@msn.com
          i doubt that very much, Your saying two "people" started wrestling each other and then never threw any punches at one another for many years after wrestling?. Your comment is ridiculous, no human on the planet can be sure when saying "grappling has been around way longer than boxing". For all you know two men may have had an argument 2million years ago and traded blows that is boxing and therefore came before grappling however it could be the other way around but, either way your comment is ****** and ignorant.
          You're an idiot. He's talking about as a sport. What makes boxing boxing is the rules. Otherwise it's just a fight. Boxing has been a sport for maybe 200years at most while wrestling has been around since 3,000B.C.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Phenomkidd
            Wrestling the sport has been around longer than boxing the sport. 2 people punching doesn't mean its boxing.
            I agree but I appreciate both sports. I prefer to watch boxing but I prefer to practice MMA. I've grown up with an endless curiosity for all martial arts and I like how modern MMA has embraced the "take the best" mentality that were ideals of my two favorite modern martial artists (Inosanto, Lee)

            To me, boxing is a type of martial arts, limited art form that has been refined for sport and spectatorship. MMA is less refined and more brutal as it has more emphasis on real life combat, not sport.

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            • MikeT86
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              #26
              Actually the Romans had their own version of boxing, but it was a rather different sport, instead of a ring the contestants were forced to fight between two poles so there was no lateral movement and they didn't have much depth to move in.
              Instead of gloves they strapped leather belts around their wrists that would strip the skin off of their opponants face if used right.
              And modern Greco-roman wrestling was a sport created for the modern olympics with only passing resemeblance to the true Wrestling styles of the time.
              Pankration how ever is essentially MMA and dates back to the Greek Olympics.

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              • Box"K"ing
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                #27
                In all fairness I still like mma and I have nothing againts it. But the thing is its not evolved and I am not sure if it will.


                I mean think about it boxing gyms have sponsors so you don't have to pay **** loads of money to learn how to box and the trainers don't need to worry about the business side of things since there is sponsors and you can focus on your skills/



                Mma schools are business oriented and its hard to learn all of it since Gracie jujitsu itself is like 140 dollars a month and the mma school that I went to had this gentlemen who was renting out space morning class at the time and his prices was fair but the mma classes where like $225!!!! a month.


                But for most part boxing gyms are 20 dollars a month in comparing to 225 mma which chances are the teacher knows half-ass martial arts and if your charging people so much money then you end up working and losing training time and it weeds out lots of prospects who may not be financially equipped thus makes mma less evolved in terms of nurturing a potential fighter or so forth...

                Anyway personally now a days I box and I know few family friends that do judo/wrestling and its a good clinch strength practice and it can be fun the stand up grappling. But no disrespect to ground guys though just not my thing...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  You're an idiot. He's talking about as a sport. What makes boxing boxing is the rules. Otherwise it's just a fight. Boxing has been a sport for maybe 200years at most while wrestling has been around since 3,000B.C.
                  Modern boxing maybe, but it has been an olympic sport since 688 B.C. . Wrestling was a sport since 704 B.C.

                  Both these Ancient Greek/Roman sports gave birth to Pankration, the predecessor to MMA in 648 BC .

                  Originally posted by madsweeney
                  I agree but I appreciate both sports. I prefer to watch boxing but I prefer to practice MMA. I've grown up with an endless curiosity for all martial arts and I like how modern MMA has embraced the "take the best" mentality that were ideals of my two favorite modern martial artists (Inosanto, Lee)

                  To me, boxing is a type of martial arts, limited art form that has been refined for sport and spectatorship. MMA is less refined and more brutal as it has more emphasis on real life combat, not sport.
                  I as well, I think most combat sports are interesting.

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                  • Phenomkidd
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Box"K"ing
                    In all fairness I still like mma and I have nothing againts it. But the thing is its not evolved and I am not sure if it will.


                    I mean think about it boxing gyms have sponsors so you don't have to pay **** loads of money to learn how to box and the trainers don't need to worry about the business side of things since there is sponsors and you can focus on your skills/



                    Mma schools are business oriented and its hard to learn all of it since Gracie jujitsu itself is like 140 dollars a month and the mma school that I went to had this gentlemen who was renting out space morning class at the time and his prices was fair but the mma classes where like $225!!!! a month.


                    But for most part boxing gyms are 20 dollars a month in comparing to 225 mma which chances are the teacher knows half-ass martial arts and if your charging people so much money then you end up working and losing training time and it weeds out lots of prospects who may not be financially equipped thus makes mma less evolved in terms of nurturing a potential fighter or so forth...

                    Anyway personally now a days I box and I know few family friends that do judo/wrestling and its a good clinch strength practice and it can be fun the stand up grappling. But no disrespect to ground guys though just not my thing...
                    MMA is costly but not just MMA, traditional martial arts schools are costly as well such as Karate, Sambo, etc.

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                    • shadeyfizzle
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Phenomkidd
                      Modern boxing maybe, but it has been an olympic sport since 688 B.C. . Wrestling was a sport since 704 B.C.

                      Both these Ancient Greek/Roman sports gave birth to Pankration, the predecessor to MMA in 648 BC .



                      I as well, I think most combat sports are interesting.
                      That's if you believe the hype. Pankration is about as much of an artform as MMA. It's just simply the name of the contest of 2 guys pretty much fighting to the death. Nothing more, nothing less. It isnt and was never a discipline in itself and we'll never know exactly what artform of fighting the most dominant fighters in pankration thousands of years ago actually used. For all we know there could have been dudes dominating with nothing but tae kwon do.

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