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  • #21
    Originally posted by spinksjinx
    Really wow, I didnt pick Spinks to beat Judah in the rematch and said Judah would beat him in the rematch...Do your homework before you come trashing.

    Eastman did not fight his usual style, but Bernard ran like hell for the first 6 rounds. But thats ok that is his style, but I had the fight a bit closer than the judges in the first half and Bernard dominated the second half no question about that.

    Watch the fight with the sound off and Eastman did more work that was talked about.
    Exactly! I know Nard believes in using the ring but dayyymmnnn, enough already! Eastman couldnt keep up with him..he'd barely catch him when Nard would change directions again! Frustrating. I dont think Eastman fought his normal style cause he didnt get a chance to. If he had been able to cut him off and open up he would have taken most, if not all, of the first 6 rounds, and maybe eeked out a draw??

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    • #22
      ya

      i gave it round 1 draw 2,3,5 to eastman and rest to hopkins

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      • #23
        Originally posted by tracylee
        Exactly! I know Nard believes in using the ring but dayyymmnnn, enough already! Eastman couldnt keep up with him..he'd barely catch him when Nard would change directions again! Frustrating. I dont think Eastman fought his normal style cause he didnt get a chance to. If he had been able to cut him off and open up he would have taken most, if not all, of the first 6 rounds, and maybe eeked out a draw??

        You can argue about Eastman not being able to fight his fight, but thats the name of the game....But if I do recall, Hopkins turned his back and actually ran from Eastman in the first half and in that round the judges and lederman had it scored for Hopkins....Hopkins didnt dominate that round and Eastman was a lot more busier, but running gets him a win for the round? If I do beleive Hakkar ran like Hopkins the whole fight and Bernard called him a sissy for running.....Although the second half closed the deal on Hopkins winning....But I still had it closer and with each fighter not dominating

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        • #24
          Originally posted by spinksjinx
          You can argue about Eastman not being able to fight his fight, but thats the name of the game....But if I do recall, Hopkins turned his back and actually ran from Eastman in the first half and in that round the judges and lederman had it scored for Hopkins....Hopkins didnt dominate that round and Eastman was a lot more busier, but running gets him a win for the round? If I do beleive Hakkar ran like Hopkins the whole fight and Bernard called him a sissy for running.....Although the second half closed the deal on Hopkins winning....But I still had it closer and with each fighter not dominating
          Yeah man, when Nard did that I was too shocked to laugh! And I sit there like a fool thinking that Harold HAD to have given that round to Eastman!! Oh well, some things never change, and being too kind to the house fighter seems to be one of them!
          Hopkins actually made him look a bit silly in the second half..guess he decided that Eastman couldnt hurt him or something. I had forgotten that Hop said that about Hakkar! Thanks for the reminder! A touch of irony!

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          • #25
            whats this bout everyoen sayin hopkins kpet hurten eastmen
            i never really thought he was in danger
            he just looked to have horrible balnce
            he almost fell over jsyt fro followin hopkins around

            does anyone think the delay effected eastmen?
            i mean right when the taylor fight was over
            they showed him all geared up and already warming up
            i dont know if that caused him to loose the fight
            but i think it had an affect on him

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            • #26
              Originally posted by abdiel2k3
              whats this bout everyoen sayin hopkins kpet hurten eastmen
              i never really thought he was in danger
              he just looked to have horrible balnce
              he almost fell over jsyt fro followin hopkins around

              does anyone think the delay effected eastmen?
              i mean right when the taylor fight was over
              they showed him all geared up and already warming up
              i dont know if that caused him to loose the fight
              but i think it had an affect on him
              lol, the delay affected me! I got tired of them yacking for so long..usually I get into the prefight talk, etc..but for some reason last night I was running out of patience with the whole crew! Maybe I was just in ***** mode, or something!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by tracylee
                lol, the delay affected me! I got tired of them yacking for so long..usually I get into the prefight talk, etc..but for some reason last night I was running out of patience with the whole crew! Maybe I was just in ***** mode, or something!
                nah
                its cuz them hbo ****s made it seem that way
                they kpet pushin that its all hopkins fault
                and that they had nothin so lets bare with them
                how many countless times have we seen that when fights end early the other fight doesnt start right away
                specialy with big fights like this
                they usually do have set ring entrance times n everything

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by abdiel2k3
                  nah
                  its cuz them hbo ****s made it seem that way
                  they kpet pushin that its all hopkins fault
                  and that they had nothin so lets bare with them
                  how many countless times have we seen that when fights end early the other fight doesnt start right away
                  specialy with big fights like this
                  they usually do have set ring entrance times n everything
                  Yeah, probably so! I just got so bored, and thats totally unlike me. Like I said, I usually get into all the prefight talk..just not last night And I was really hoping the Taylor fight would go a little longer..it's time that boy was REALLY tested..and Edouard is usually a pretty tough nut. I hated to see it over so soon (subconciously I knew that Jermain was more fun to watch than Nard, maybe?? )

                  OH, and thanks for the karma guys..I just tried to give some back to both of you and it said I had to spread it around..I'll get back to ya!
                  Last edited by tracylee; 02-20-2005, 06:15 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by tracylee
                    Hey I'll be the first to back Spinks up by saying that the style Eastman showed us last night was NOT his usual style. That statement is still correct, in a way. If Nard hadnt run so damn much, and if Eastman had cut the ring off while he was running instead of following him around, he may have been able to win more of the early rounds.
                    I think the reason he couldnt fight in his normal style is because of the way hop was fighting. He used his style to throw Eastman off.

                    I think Eastman not watching videos was a mistake. Maybe if he would have expect B-Hop to move around so much he could have adapted better. I think Eastman came in looking to fight in the center face to face but got a sad surprise.

                    Eastman complained about how B was running but it wasnt really running as much as exploiting the weakness of Eastman.(thanks to GodzHand for putting it into better perspective for me)

                    I think also, as some other people have mentioned, Eastman's corner was a big factor, I dont remember them telling him to look out for the left hook that kept smashing in his face.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Zeroflip1
                      I think the reason he couldnt fight in his normal style is because of the way hop was fighting. He used his style to throw Eastman off.

                      I think Eastman not watching videos was a mistake. Maybe if he would have expect B-Hop to move around so much he could have adapted better. I think Eastman came in looking to fight in the center face to face but got a sad surprise.

                      Eastman complained about how B was running but it wasnt really running as much as exploiting the weakness of Eastman.(thanks to GodzHand for putting it into better perspective for me)

                      I think also, as some other people have mentioned, Eastman's corner was a big factor, I dont remember them telling him to look out for the left hook that kept smashing in his face.
                      Well, you call it exploiting, I'll call it running. When you actually turn your back on your opponet in your haste to get away, thats running. As for the corner warning him about the left hooks, you'd think after tasting a few he wouldnt need much warning!

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