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  • rob6465
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    #41
    Originally posted by LilGizmo562
    No, but Douglas wasn't the top fighter like DLH until he beat Tyson and we all saw what happened to him when he fought Holyfield (Douglas). Prime DLH would have outboxed and beaten Cotto by late TKO or KO.
    Maybe, DLH probably would do the same to Pacman.

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      #42
      [QUOTE=RRICAN;5780752]
      Originally posted by Tyson2k7
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


      LOL both Prime Morales and Oscar are way better than Cotto.


      Really when? That fight was a draw or a close clear win for Oscar.


      LOL better skills than Tito at 147? HAHAHAHA Tito is way better than Cotto. Tito would KO him like Vargas as would Oscar.By the way young Vargas is also better than Cotto.



      all right let me go one by one maybe you comprehend better:

      1. gatti's heart will give trouble to anybody(prime)
      2.Who has the W on their record tito or oscar??? tito won cus delahoya threw away that victory when he decided to run the last 3-4rds.
      3. tito was a great boxer early in his career, in the late part he wanted to knock everybody out.so he didnt box as well.
      4. will see on nov 14 whos better between pac vs cotto
      Tito was NOT a great boxer early in his career, he had great power. He was an avg boxer with great power in both hands.

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      • LilGizmo562
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        #43
        Originally posted by rob6465
        Maybe, DLH probably would do the same to Pacman.
        If you are telling me if a Prime DLH would outbox or KO pacman, then yes he would have...easily.

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        • Manuel6
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          #44
          Any argument is without merit. Cotto is a creature of his time. He is a powerful welterweight and damn good boxer- like most of the welterweight division. Maybe I have forgotten what the 90's were like, even though I was an adult, but to the best of my knowledge, the welterweight division did not resembled anything like what it resembles today. I challenge anybody to pick comparable boxers to Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, or Andre Berto in the early 90's. The truth is none existed. The welterweight division is bigger, faster, and stronger than when De La Hoya was in his prime. I wonder how much success De La Hoya would have had in his career if he had to constantly face the monsters that exist today. Morales was a great boxer, but he was in a different weight division, and really shouldn't be discussed along side Cotto and De La Hoya. If we are going to discuss intangibles (heart, tenacity, etc.), then MAYBE the discussing has merit. My favorite all time baseball hitter is Ted Williams- considered by many to be the greatest hitter that ever lived. But truth be told, Ted Williams did not have to hit against the physical phenoms that take the mound today. You just can't compare his career to say Albert Pujols, who promises to be one of the greatest of era.

          This shouldn't be a serious discussion. It mostly for fun, if even that. Miguel Cotto has proven to be one of the great welterweights of his era- period.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #45
            A prime welterweight Oscar stops Cotto quicker than a Vyron does the 1/4 mile,true story!!Great jab,power,speed and footwork,plus he was a huge welterweight,ohhh yeah,big problems for Cotto!!

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              #46
              [QUOTE=cuauhtemoc1496;5780846]
              Originally posted by RRICAN

              Tito was NOT a great boxer early in his career, he had great power. He was an avg boxer with great power in both hands.
              maybe i should have said a better boxer early in his career. what i dont get is people saying he was a better boxer than cotto. more power definately but not better boxing skills.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Manuel6
                Any argument is without merit. Cotto is a creature of his time. He is a powerful welterweight and damn good boxer- like most of the welterweight division. Maybe I have forgotten what the 90's were like, even though I was an adult, but to the best of my knowledge, the welterweight division did not resembled anything like what it resembles today. I challenge anybody to pick comparable boxers to Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, or Andre Berto in the early 90's. The truth is none existed. The welterweight division is bigger, faster, and stronger than when De La Hoya was in his prime. I wonder how much success De La Hoya would have had in his career if he had to constantly face the monsters that exist today. Morales was a great boxer, but he was in a different weight division, and really shouldn't be discussed along side Cotto and De La Hoya. If we are going to discuss intangibles (heart, tenacity, etc.), then MAYBE the discussing has merit. My favorite all time baseball hitter is Ted Williams- considered by many to be the greatest hitter that ever lived. But truth be told, Ted Williams did not have to hit against the physical phenoms that take the mound today. You just can't compare his career to say Albert Pujols, who promises to be one of the greatest of era.

                This shouldn't be a serious discussion. It mostly for fun, if even that. Miguel Cotto has proven to be one of the great welterweights of his era- period.
                This thread was for fun! Great post! Green k.
                Last edited by D-Omonist; 07-28-2009, 12:51 PM.

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                  #48
                  [QUOTE=RRICAN;5780873]
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496

                  maybe i should have said a better boxer early in his career. what i dont get is people saying he was a better boxer than cotto. more power definately but not better boxing skills.
                  Cotto is the much better boxer than Tito. Remember, Tito was actually getting outboxed by vargas in their fight but Tito's power was too much for him late in that fight. When they exchanged though, Vargas was getting the better of it quite a few times.

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #49
                    A prime DLH had Ike,Mosley,Tito,Sweat pea,just to name a few!!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Manuel6
                      Any argument is without merit. Cotto is a creature of his time. He is a powerful welterweight and damn good boxer- like most of the welterweight division. Maybe I have forgotten what the 90's were like, even though I was an adult, but to the best of my knowledge, the welterweight division did not resembled anything like what it resembles today. I challenge anybody to pick comparable boxers to Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, or Andre Berto in the early 90's. The truth is none existed. The welterweight division is bigger, faster, and stronger than when De La Hoya was in his prime. I wonder how much success De La Hoya would have had in his career if he had to constantly face the monsters that exist today. Morales was a great boxer, but he was in a different weight division, and really shouldn't be discussed along side Cotto and De La Hoya. If we are going to discuss intangibles (heart, tenacity, etc.), then MAYBE the discussing has merit. My favorite all time baseball hitter is Ted Williams- considered by many to be the greatest hitter that ever lived. But truth be told, Ted Williams did not have to hit against the physical phenoms that take the mound today. You just can't compare his career to say Albert Pujols, who promises to be one of the greatest of era.

                      This shouldn't be a serious discussion. It mostly for fun, if even that. Miguel Cotto has proven to be one of the great welterweights of his era- period.
                      You act as if the 90's were 100 years ago and then made the analogy to Ted Williams....hahahahaha

                      Oh man, some people will reeeeeeeaaaaaach to try and prove a point. DLH was 2x the fighter Cotto is, sorry it's the truth. When it's all said and done, DLH will be much, much higher on the ATG list and for good reason.

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