Pavlik Vs Williams fight anylisis

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  • TredKiller
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    #11
    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
    Williams has made a vast improvement on his defense, if he were as easy to hit as before, he would have gotten tagged by the rusty Winky. Fact is, when he's not punching, he's using consistent head movement and lateral movement. He wasn't doing that a couple fights ago.

    1) The Miranda fight is the only fight, I've seen Pavlik use his strength on the inside and that's because Miranda moves straight back, other than that he hasn't used it. 2) Paul Williams is a 10x better fighter on the inside, his punches are shorter than most short armed fighters.

    How can you say Williams has a decent chin, when he's never really even been buzzed, despite getting hit cleanly a lot? Of what I've seen of P-Will's chin nothing less than good-excellent can be said.

    Margarito came on strong, hit him hard with some solid punches late and he still came back to win the 12th. That's called resilience, it wasn't a bloody war, but it was a high pace fight where a lot of energy was expended by both fighters, pretty damn close to a war.

    I have to watch a couple of their fights before I make up my mind on who's winning, but I'm leaning towards Williams by decision or late ko. I agree with the war for as long as it lasts.
    i just dont think he has the power to really hurt pavlik, or the mentality to try to avoid him, and pavlik being his biggest opponite, packing the biggest punch, i just think it'll be to much.

    and i dont take the winky win that siriously, pauls style is winky's weaknes, winky waits for you to stop punching, williams doesnt stop,
    plus winky hadent fought in 2 years.

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    • MANGLER
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      #12
      Agree. Pwill can outwork Pavlik, but I don't trust his chin at 160. Pavlik KO's him.

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      • cdsimple
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        #13
        I too believe this will be a mismatch in PW's favor. Pavlik was exposed with the BHop fight. Your anylisis mentions all of Pavliks advantages, but you fail to mention his disadvantages. Pavlik is stiff. He loses alot of his power and is much slower while fighting on the inside. He also has very slow feet, and gets lost when he is given angles and his opponent turns him.

        Pavlik has to be set to throw. This makes him very predictable and most of the time, he only throws a 1-2. I can see PW getting off 5 punch combos before Pavlik even throws one shot. He is not a one punch KO guy, and PW's chin is very solid. The key to the fight for me is speed. PW has the hand speed and movement speed by a mile. I hope Pavlik opens as the favorite, I will lay down some major cash on PW if that is the case.

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        • TredKiller
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          #14
          Originally posted by cdsimple
          I too believe this will be a mismatch in PW's favor. Pavlik was exposed with the BHop fight. Your anylisis mentions all of Pavliks advantages, but you fail to mention his disadvantages. Pavlik is stiff. He loses alot of his power and is much slower while fighting on the inside. He also has very slow feet, and gets lost when he is given angles and his opponent turns him.

          Pavlik has to be set to throw. This makes him very predictable and most of the time, he only throws a 1-2. I can see PW getting off 5 punch combos before Pavlik even throws one shot. He is not a one punch KO guy, and PW's chin is very solid. The key to the fight for me is speed. PW has the hand speed and movement speed by a mile. I hope Pavlik opens as the favorite, I will lay down some major cash on PW if that is the case.
          i respect your oppinion, and green k for backing it up,
          just know that PW fights NOTHING lik bhop

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          • The Hammer
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            #15
            I think Williams can take Pavlik's punchers, and he's faster and stronger than some people think.

            Paul will likely win a wide decision, Pavlik will have a pizza face.

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            • Ryn0
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              #16
              I think Hopkins has laid the blue print for beating Pavlik, Hopkins destroyed Pavliks workrate.

              I think Williams would beat him comprehensively, his workrate is better than Pavliks and his height and reach are slightly bigger than Pavliks.

              I think Williams wins a decision since Pavlik showed nothing in the Rubio fight to show me he has changed.

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              • cdsimple
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                #17
                Originally posted by TredKiller
                i respect your oppinion, and green k for backing it up,
                just know that PW fights NOTHING lik bhop
                Thanks. While PW fights nothing like BHop, we can still deduct from that fight what gives pavlik trouble, and thats movement. PW can look at that fight, and come up with a great game plan. If i were him, I would be very excited to get this fight signed.

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                • KILLA RIGHT
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                  #18
                  I think p will will take this because p will will be throwing and moving from all angles. If you move away from kelly's right like b hop did he wont know what to do

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                  • Heru
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TredKiller
                    i just dont think he has the power to really hurt pavlik, or the mentality to try to avoid him, and pavlik being his biggest opponite, packing the biggest punch, i just think it'll be to much.

                    and i dont take the winky win that siriously, pauls style is winky's weaknes, winky waits for you to stop punching, williams doesnt stop,
                    plus winky hadent fought in 2 years.
                    Paul doesn't need to hurt Pavlik, but he does need to get his respect, and he will.

                    It's not about the Winky win, I know he's Wright's stylistic nightmare, but it's how Williams won. Not only did he shut Winky down, but when he wasn't throwing 3,4,5+ punch combinations, he was giving head movement and using lateral movement. Winky couldn't hit him even when he wasn't punching.

                    B-Hop already showed he can Pavlik's vulnerability to lateral movement and when Taylor was moving his head, Pavlik would barely hit him. The more I talk the more I know Williams got this.

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                    • Iceta
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                      #20
                      I think Williams would win this fight but it would be a battle. I'll be pissed if it don't happen, because I will realize I wasted my time posting about it.

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