Pacquiao-Cotto: No WBO Title at Stake, Says Arum

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  • KING_of_ANGLES
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    #151
    Originally posted by elmalo29
    ever heard of the ww limit being 147 lbs?
    are you a idiot?? WW limit is 141 to 147lbs ****..

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    • Datu Puti
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      #152
      Originally posted by Alpha-Omega
      just put the ****ing belt on the gadam line already.do people not understand that if its not for the belt t it will look like cotto is trying to beat up on a smaller guy? atleast with that abc belt, you can call it a welterweight fight.****.smh at cotto's camp.you really care about paying sanctioning fees that much?
      If the belt is on the line the fight should happen at 147lbs...fair is fair...the welterweight limit is 147lbs. Now if PACQUIAO cares to be the first to win in seven division, then he should offer to pay or compromise something for the sanctioning fee, since he is getting a higher purse. With that said...145lbs catchweight is fair but no belt should be included.

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      • Animalistic
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        #153
        Originally posted by elmalo29
        ever heard of the ww limit being 147 lbs?
        I doub it. They live in Pacquiao's word. Where you can beat drained fighters and overrated bums from England.

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        • Animalistic
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          #154
          Originally posted by RocKeT
          are you a idiot?? WW limit is 141 to 147lbs ****..
          You said it! 141-147! Not 141-145!

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          • KING_of_ANGLES
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            #155
            Originally posted by Animalistic
            You said it! 141-147! Not 141-145!
            what?? :wank::wank::wank:

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            • PACBOY
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              #156
              Originally posted by Animalistic
              You said it! 141-147! Not 141-145!
              Thats what the little "-" means.... duh

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              • prsi
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                #157
                Originally posted by ELPacman
                Ok, so does this make the fight even more insignificant? First there was the weight issues, and now the title isn't on the line. Basically a meaningless fight if both fighters have loss excuses and no belt is to be earned or defended. I mean I like the idea of matching up these 2 exciting fighters, but it would be nice to have some worth behind the event...
                Title or none title the fight will be huge and it will be the best fight of the Year. It will be more than significant for both boxers and the fans

                Originally posted by cush3
                I wonder if its going to be 10 rounds if its not going to be a title fight.It better be 12 rounds they better make up something.How in the hell the fee is 400,000 for the belt some fighters don't get that for a fight.Now that's real pimpin'
                It will be for 12 round max. title or non-title

                Originally posted by gerardofpr
                *** the WBO....... this will be a great fight....... who cares about titles this days right........
                True there are to many divisions out there, so anybody can have a title now a days.
                Originally posted by BraggartKilla
                The belt it very important for Pacquiao, he's trying to get his 7th division world title.

                big deal for a midget, blown up featherweight like Pacquiao

                big possibilty that the fight won't happen as planned
                Paqcuiao didn't and is not demanding the title to be at risk to start of with. If it was important for him he should had demand it in the negotiations or fight Berto for his title, but Berto would not bring Pacman the money that Cotto would bring.
                Originally posted by Animalistic
                How can it be a big deal for Pacquiao when he was the one that agreed to fight Cotto with no title at stake! You make no sence!

                Cotto will beat Pacquiao no matter what!
                The only sense that it makes is that he was wanting more the money than the title.
                Originally posted by RocKeT
                you dont get it do you?? pacman is making history, the 1st ever boxer who have a 7th division title...pacman have alot of money already he trying to improve he's legacy....
                You are the one that doesn;t get it. Pacquiao is not demanding the title to be on the line. If that was the case he should had fought Berto. It would had been easier for him but once again it's all about the money that Cotto could bring to the table.
                Originally posted by Iceta
                So is Cotto still going to have to pay the WBO sanctioning fee even if he doesn't put his title on the line? If that's the case he might as well defend it. Having no title involved in this fight goes to show you that Pacquiao isn't going to chase greatness.
                Varcarcel (WBO President)was saying something about a fine but no numbers were mentioned and Cotto's lawyers are going to meet with Valcarcel to sipute those issues.
                Originally posted by BraggartKilla
                kid, Pacquiao can make the same money or more by fighting Mosely at a lower weight with less bull****.
                This is the only fight for Cotto to make the big bucks.
                Wrong, he cannot make more money fighting Mosley because the fight would had been co-promoted and Arum would not have been able to offer Pacquiao what he did to face Cotto. Beside Cotto-Pacman will sell more. Remember Cotto-Mosley and Cotto-Margarito sold decently however Mosley-Margarito couldn't even make it to PPV
                Also a rematch between Mosley-Cotto will also make good buck for Cotto, not as much as Pacquiao, but to say that it's the only big bucks fight for Cotto, is tottaly wrong
                Last edited by prsi; 07-25-2009, 08:02 PM.

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                • machotime
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                  #158
                  The fact is that this fight is at a catch weight, not at the WW limit. Therefore, why should Cotto put his belt at stake? What is the benefit to him?

                  Those who compare this situation to the B-Hop-DLH fight, remember that DLH was putting his WBO title on the line against B-Hop's titles. It was a give and take circumstance. Pac doesnt hold a belt at 147, therefore there is no gain in putting Cotto's belt on the line if Pac is not putting anything at stake. Use your logic here.

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                  • Datu Puti
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by RocKeT
                    are you a idiot?? WW limit is 141 to 147lbs ****..
                    I agree with you..but If Cotto has to risk his belt on the line, then he should be able to be at 147lbs during the weigh in..I'm a PACQUIAO fan, but its only fair for the depending champ to come at his best weight possible. At 145lbs..Cotto would still be okay, but if your risking your title and the limit is between 141 to 147lbs..then COTTO should have a say on his weigh in weight. Remember with the title on the line COTTO should be calling the shots on the weigh in. Without the title on the line, PACQUIAO calls the shot on the weigh in since he is the lb4lb KING.

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                    • lparm
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by RocKeT
                      are you a idiot?? WW limit is 141 to 147lbs ****..
                      Yeah everyone forgets that weight classes doesn't mean every fighter has to be at the limit. The idea of a limit is to restrict heavier fighters from competing at that weight. I remember all the **** that was said when Calzaghe beat Hopkins but wasn't at the 175lbs limit and some idiots said it wasn't a lt hw fight. So in that case a guy that was above the 168 limit but under the 175 limit somehow wasn't fighting at lt hw??? People get so hung up on the limit part and don't realize you can be less than the limit by a few pounds and still be within a specific weight division.

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