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  • #71
    Originally posted by raycorey View Post
    Would have to ask vitali and haye why they couldn't workout a deal and what was your second question?
    my second question is, what do you want the boxing fans to feel after haye did this? you want the fans to be impressed?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by JM1 View Post
      my second question is, what do you want the boxing fans to feel after haye did this? you want the fans to be impressed?
      Please don't generalize your own views to 'boxing fans'. A great many of us are actually able to grasp the fact that, in view of the terms of the contract on offer, it was quite legitimate for Haye to be looking elsewhere. It is also industry practice that, despite some of the ignorant crap I've seen here, he didn't keep the Klitschko camp informed of his negotiations with somebody else... you only do that if you think you could benefit from the extra leverage.

      Vitali got too greedy, and was trying to shaft Haye on the basis that Haye had no other options. It turned out Haye did have another option, so I have little sympathy that K2 got shafted in return. Hopefully they will be a little more reasonable with contract terms next time - and if Haye beats Valuev there will be a next time. All the bad blood just provides more hype and more interest.
      Last edited by The_Visitation; 07-25-2009, 01:26 AM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by The_Visitation View Post
        Please don't generalize your own views to 'boxing fans'. A great many of us are actually able to grasp the fact that, in view of the terms of the contract on offer, it was quite legitimate for Haye to be looking elsewhere. It is also industry practice that, despite some of the ignorant crap I've seen here, he didn't keep the Klitschko camp informed of his negotiations with somebody else... you only do that if you think you could benefit from the extra leverage.

        Vitali got too greedy, and was trying to shaft Haye on the basis that Haye had no other options. It turned out Haye did have another option, so I have little sympathy that K2 got shafted in return. Hopefully they will be a little more reasonable with contract terms next time - and if Haye beats Valuev there will be a next time. All the bad blood just provides more hype and more interest.
        i didnt generalize. i didnt say ALL boxing fans. and the question is not even for you

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        • #74
          This would be such a good fight. Both come to fight. Im sure it would do really good business.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by JM1 View Post
            my second question is, what do you want the boxing fans to feel after haye did this? you want the fans to be impressed?

            Who cares if boxing fans are inpressed or not??? A lot of fights happens and some falls through due to many reasons because it takes two to tango, Am glad a young hungry fighter like Haye doesnt have to sell his soul/career by signing a contract that represent a modern-day slavery contract.

            If Haye feels he had a better contract on the table then he own nobody a reason for signing them and if boxing fans dont understand his own logic they can go to the gym, start boxing and challenge the Klits themselves.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by raycorey View Post
              Who cares if boxing fans are inpressed or not??? A lot of fights happens and some falls through due to many reasons because it takes two to tango, Am glad a young hungry fighter like Haye doesnt have to sell his soul/career by signing a contract that represent a modern-day slavery contract.

              If Haye feels he had a better contract on the table then he own nobody a reason for signing them and if boxing fans dont understand his own logic they can go to the gym, start boxing and challenge the Klits themselves.
              then why call some fans dumb if they feel pissed about haye? and you didnt answer the question. you could have said yes or no. but i guess youre ducking it so, im outta here

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JM1 View Post
                then why call some fans dumb if they feel pissed about haye? and you didnt answer the question. you could have said yes or no. but i guess youre ducking it so, im outta here

                What question did i duck? you question require more than a yes or no answer, I call some boxing fans dumb because an ignorant casual fan is way better than a boxing fan who knows how boxing works behind close doors..

                My mind is open, I dont care if a fighter talks BS in front of a camera i still understand that he doesnt have to go out there and sign a dumb contract to look macho, so if a boxing fan cannot understand that simple logic then they need help.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by raycorey View Post

                  What question did i duck? you question require more than a yes or no answer, I call some boxing fans dumb because an ignorant casual fan is way better than a boxing fan who knows how boxing works behind close doors..

                  My mind is open, I dont care if a fighter talks BS in front of a camera i still understand that he doesnt have to go out there and sign a dumb contract to look macho, so if a boxing fan cannot understand that simple logic then they need help.
                  youre giving excuses. not an answer

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                  • #79
                    That is a fight i would like to see. Chris deserves at a shot more then Haye did anyway. I still think Vitai wins by KO.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by JM1 View Post
                      youre giving excuses. not an answer
                      To you yes, You have an agenda and you're trying to push it through. I dont so yes my words would look like an excuse to the less knowledgeable boxing fan.

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