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  • SAN D13GO VILLAN
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    #91
    Originally posted by JM1
    the fight being at 147 is out of the picture now and lets deal with the facts. what division is 145?
    Yea but the rules say that 147 is the limit and the fights are allways fought at 147, It just sounds kind of silly that the champion defends his belt and he cant even come in at the weight it's suppose to be. Kind of seems like Paquiao is punking him.

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    • JM1
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      #92
      Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN
      Yea but the rules say that 147 is the limit and the fights are allways fought at 147, It just sounds kind of silly that the champion defends his belt and he cant even come in at the weight it's suppose to be. Kind of seems like Paquiao is punking him.
      147 IS the maximum limit bro. and you didnt answer my question, what division is 145?

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      • Ravishing
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        #93
        I don't see why the title should be on the line if the fight isn't at the WW limit (147). Along with Cotto getting only 30% of the purse, he shouldn't even bother. You gotta hold some type of bargaining chip instead of just giving into demands.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Ravishing
          I don't see why the title should be on the line if the fight isn't at the WW limit (147). Along with Cotto getting only 30% of the purse, he shouldn't even bother. You gotta hold some type of bargaining chip instead of just giving into demands.
          same question goes to you, what division is 145? by the way, miguel is getting 35% share and hes guaranteed to have up to $15m his biggest payday ever

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            #95
            Originally posted by JM1
            same question goes to you, what division is 145? by the way, miguel is getting 35% share and hes guaranteed to have up to $15m his biggest payday ever
            145lb limit is a catchweight, 147lbs is the WW limit. A fighter is allowed to weight AT MOST 147lbs. If a fighter is limited to weighing 2 lbs less than what the division's limit is, why should he give the other fighter an advantage who's coming to fight FOR his belt?

            Truthfully, it's not THAT big a deal to me, but it's more of a principle thing. If Pacquiao and his team want the belt they should've just made it a full fledged WW fight (141-147). Obviously they're concerned with something for Cotto to come down in weight (even if it's 1-2lbs). Cotto's gotta show he's not the lesser of the two guys, but the WBO may have their say in the matter either way. One of the reasons why Boxing is where it's at today...the Bureaucracy. SMH...

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              #96
              Originally posted by Ravishing
              145lb limit is a catchweight, 147lbs is the WW limit. A fighter is allowed to weight AT MOST 147lbs. If a fighter is limited to weighing 2 lbs less than what the division's limit is, why should he give the other fighter an advantage who's coming to fight FOR his belt?

              Truthfully, it's not THAT big a deal to me, but it's more of a principle thing. If Pacquiao and his team want the belt they should've just made it a full fledged WW fight (141-147). Obviously they're concerned with something for Cotto to come down in weight (even if it's 1-2lbs). Cotto's gotta show he's not the lesser of the two guys, but the WBO may have their say in the matter either way. One of the reasons why Boxing is where it's at today...the Bureaucracy. SMH...
              yes 145 is a catchweight, but in what division is it?

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                #97
                Originally posted by JM1
                hi mellow how youve been doing lately? bro, miguel is getting $15m for this fight and paying the fees is peanuts for him
                it is what it is..!!


                bob arum is making way way more with this fight.. both fighters know this.. and thats the reason both of them are going to try to get the most.

                Just like pac did ....bob arum .. paid him a side money... hes gonna have to do the same with cotto..


                And he will do it, gladly. At the end he knows hes making way way more.. hes not gonna let this fight to get cancel for (peanuts)

                nothing more nothing less.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by JM1
                  yes 145 is a catchweight, but in what division is it?
                  It's a catchweight of the WW division (I know where you're going with this), but again it's a thing of principle. Why limit the actual champion if you're fighting for his belt?

                  I'll ask you this, why IS there a catchweight for this fight and not a full fledged WW fight? What is the point of having it at 145lbs? Is this suiting Pacquiao or Cotto?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by mellow_mood
                    it is what it is..!!


                    bob arum is making way way more with this fight.. both fighters know this.. and thats the reason both of them are going to try to get the most.

                    Just like pac did ....bob arum .. paid him a side money... hes gonna have to do the same with cotto..


                    And he will do it, gladly. At the end he knows hes making way way more.. hes not gonna let this fight to get cancel for (peanuts)

                    nothing more nothing less.
                    indeed. but paying the sanctioning fees will also benefit miguel if he is able to defend it against pac. so why not pay it? and pac is now ranked #1 by the wbo so it should be a title defense in the first place

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                      #100
                      pac and his team are the ones having self doubt here. If they really wanted to put the belt on the line why not make the fight at 147 and win it the right way. everyone on this site keeps saying how this is an easy ko for manny so why does roach care for 2 pounds. the boxing world will be shocked november 15th when cotto beats little pac man up. i just hope he gets full credit and we dont start hearing how pac was too small

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