darren sutherland - james degale

[D-MiZe]

god your ******! how many boxers have lost their 1st fight nevermind their 15th! to then become world champions... check out the boxrec champions records sometime... sutherland did get cut a tiny knick! jeffries is world class im my eyes i will never diss him.

You're the one beginning ****** here Barry, come on man.

It's not the number of fights they've had, it's who they fought. I could fight 50 tomato cans and have a 50 - 0 record, but when I fight a gatekeeper and lose I can't turn around and say ' Oh, I lost my 51st fight I could become a World champion '.

It's the fact he lost to a gatekeeper which is the point being made.

I'd bet with on where Lee will end up, but who knows if this forum is still here in 6 years.

[Gorgeous George]

You're the one begin ****** here Barry, come on man.

It's not the number of fights they've had, it's who they fought. I could fight 50 tomato cans and have a 50 - 0 record, but when I fight a gatekeeper and lose I can't turn around and say ' Oh, I lost my 51st fight I could become a World champion '.

It's the fact he lost to a gatekeeper which is the point being made.

I'd bet with on where Lee will end up, but who knows if this forum is still here in 6 years.

are dumb enough to think these former world champions lost to title holders in their 1st fights! stfu! check out all the past world champions like barrea and morales and tell me they didnt get beat by journey men.. go to boxrec and look up past world champions fight records or stfu!

[D-MiZe]

are dumb enough to think these former world champions lost to title holders in their 1st fights! stfu! check out all the past world champions like barrea and morales and tell me they didnt get beat by journey men.. go to boxrec and look up past world champions fight records or stfu!

Brian Vera is a title holder?

[Gorgeous George]

Brian Vera is a title holder?

are you checking those past world champion records yet!? na! your still here talking ****e about amir!

[D-MiZe]

are you checking those past world champion records yet!? na! your still here talking ****e about amir!

**** about Amir?

Such as...

[Gorgeous George]

**** about Amir?

Such as...

did you know that pacman lost his 12 fight..... to a journey man. he must be crap also.

[D-MiZe]

did you know that pacman lost his 12 fight..... to a journey man. he must be crap also.

Wasn't it by a low blow?

[gingeralbino]

u 2 not bored yet?

[D-MiZe]

u 2 not bored yet?

Nah, we'll be at it all day.

[Wiirdo]

I'm Irish, and even I'll agree that Andy Lee is ****.

Sutherland on the other hand, he looks like he could become at least European material, and maybe World, if he tightens his technique up.