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  • D-MiZe
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Yes but the people writing those ranking did not know that BEFORE he lost to Jeff Lacy, so you see ranking are pointless to bring up.
    One of my questions was, what defines a World class fighter in the LWW division. Which is why I brought up the rankings. People say he's a European level boxer.

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    • Mersey
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      #12
      Originally posted by Demise
      Kotelnik being a World class fighter tonight if he had beaten Khan?

      No one would have, but the fact that Khan actually dominated Kotelnik and won a belt. People have to bring up Kotelnik's authenticity as a World class fighter.

      Kotelnik is certainly not a European level fighter.

      What defines World class in a division like LWW?

      According to the Ring magazine, Kotelnik is a Top 5 fighter. Only Pacquiao, Witter and Bradley rank above him.

      BoxRec rank him as 6th in the World.

      Is it the fact that glass jawed Khan was, only a matter of months ago, obliterated by Prescott and here he is now as a World champion?

      But hang on, in a completely different division. Under the tutelage of arguably the best trainer out there. He completely dominated Kotelnik with his workrate and forced Kotelnik to keep guard up at all times.
      I agree, the logic on these forums is strange.

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      • Dubious-Dutch
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        #13
        Originally posted by Demise
        A few months, obviously not the correct timeline. But who cares, it's not the issue here.

        Everyone thought Khan's career was over after Prescott.

        LOLZ!!!111one you have Khan in your avatar, must mean you're a fan!
        You have Haye in your signature, typical hater!

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        • D-MiZe
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch
          You have Haye in your signature, typical hater!
          What the fuck?

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          • MOTHER DUCKER
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            #15
            It's hard to rate Klotenik and how good he really is, he was never KO, or more importantly clearly beaten before, tonight he was. Klotenik held wins over good opposition that's fact, he is a very good tough opponent but not elite imo.. but then again it depends how you define elite..

            Outside of Pac no one is elite to me in that division, he is certainly one of the best at that weight tho and Khan beat him very clearly so props for that. IF you are basing what World class is on 140 right now outside of Pacman then yes imo Klotenik is World class and was one of the best fighters at that weight.

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            • Dubious-Dutch
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              #16
              Originally posted by Demise
              What the fuck?

              I assumed the opposite of the poster you responded to.

              LOLz11211p21-2-2o2

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              • Sir Tom Jones
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                #17
                Euro bum.

                No doubt this tag will be thrown at him.

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                • Dubious-Dutch
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones
                  Euro bum.

                  No doubt this tag will be thrown at him.
                  Actually, it wasn't thrown out by anybody. Of course when a British poster questioned Kotelnik as an opponent and called him "Euro level" it seemed to bother some posters.

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #19
                    awesome stuff

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