Who should be Remove on ATG among these List? WHo is not Deserving?

**Sumakwel** · 07-18-2009, 08:04 AM

I'd pick Floyd. This guy is fooling everyone by cherrypicking his opponents and avoiding legitimate threats. How can you call yourself great when you didn't fought the Margarito, Williams, Cotto and Mosley of your division?

I'm sure Hopkins, Trinidad and Jones would fight the best in his division

**Deja_Vous** · 07-18-2009, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Sumakwel

I'd pick Floyd. This guy is fooling everyone by cherrypicking his opponents and avoiding legitimate threats. How can you call yourself great when you didn't fought the Margarito, Williams, Cotto and Mosley of your division?

I'm sure Hopkins, Trinidad and Jones would fight the best in his division

It took Tito SEVEN years to fight another champion at 147.

He ducked anybody with a title until FINALLY fighting Oscar.

**Shattered Jaw** · 07-18-2009, 08:09 AM

Considering Tito cheated for his entire career then I'll say him.

**Slimey Limey** · 07-18-2009, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Shattered Jaw

Considering Tito cheated for his entire career then I'll say him.

Then got his arse whooped by every great fighter he fought.

**Sumakwel** · 07-18-2009, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Deja_Vous

It took Tito SEVEN years to fight another champion at 147.

He ducked anybody with a title until FINALLY fighting Oscar.

I agree but Tito didn't retire like what Floyd did and waited for everyone to lose. He retired because he knows Margarito or Cotto would've smashed him into pieces. What happened when Cotto was coming off a victory over Mosley? Floyd overprice himself. When Margs beat Cotto, Floyd retired, When Mosley beat Margarito, Floyd overprice himself again.

**hookoutofhell** · 07-18-2009, 08:58 AM

no-one can accuse floyd or manny of avoiding fighters when they were in their legit weight classes, they fought everyone down at the lower weights and beat stellar HOF comp (castillo, corrales, JMM, MAB) to seal their ATG status. now they are cherry picking fights but to a degree they have earned the right to give themselves a nice retirement fund.

as for RJJ come on the guy chased fights with the best - hopkins at MW, toney at SMW, nunn at LHW and of course ruiz at HW. he also chased fights with just about every other big name HW there was including tyson and holyfield. imo ppl will only really give RJJ credit once he retires right now the current version of RJJ is clouding alot of people's judgement on his career as a whole.

as for tito and hopkins both are cherry pickers. both lost their big fights when they were against genuine elite level guys from their weight divisions and both have fans who proclaim them to be better than they actually are. however hopkins irritates me he seems to **** his own drum far too often and make himself out to be better than he is while championing his wins over smaller fighters. im gonna say hopkins but i wouldn't argue with someone if they voted for tito.

imo neither tito nor hopkins are ATG's.

**Gettin Jiggy** · 07-18-2009, 08:59 AM

none all ATG fighters!

**Animalistic** · 07-18-2009, 09:02 AM

I say Pacquiao because of the weight draining BS he is trying to pull with Cotto and Mosley. That stuff disapoints me and I don't consider Mayweather an all time great so no need to vote for him.

**#1Assassin** · 07-18-2009, 09:04 AM

first of where is calzaghe? sice he wasnt there i voted for pacquiao.

Who should be Remove on ATG among these List? WHo is not Deserving?