Klitschko-Haye Heading To a Stadium in Frankfurt

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  • PittyPat
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    #21
    Originally posted by Demise
    The way Haye fights, iron chin or not - if he starts an attack you're going down.
    And what with how sloppy, slow and old Vitali is these days... well, it's clear to see that any HW would have a much better chance of beating him than the current prime Wlad. I find it absolutely laughable as to how delusional people are when it comes to biggin up "mean, badass" Vitali (mainly because of his KO record and so-called "killer instinct"), but not the better brother overall - Wlad.

    Vitali has horrendous footwork (as flat-footed as you can get), keeps his hands at thigh-height, doesn't have much of a jab to speak of (which, in his case, is just a pawing rangefinder), and has always had stamina problems after about 3 or 4 rounds. Yeah, there's that nasty right hand to deal with, but once a fighter can become brave enough to get past that we'll see his chin truly tested. And he has no inside game at all. Lennox and Sanders proved that with effort.

    Meanwhile Wlad has great footwork (cuts the ring off effectively), keeps his hands nice and high, has easily the best and hardest jab in the biz, and seems to have sorted out his stamina problems that plagued him earlier on. His right hand, too (whenever he decides to use it), is devastating. To even get on the inside of Wlad is the biggest challenge in that ring for anyone facing him. If you stay on the outside, you're fucked.

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    • Tobi.G
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      #22
      What!? Is the fight on??? Yeeejaaahh!!

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      • MANGLER
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        #23
        I wanted to see Wlad fight Haye more, but the VK fight will be better anyway. This is what HW needs.

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        • D-MiZe
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          #24
          Originally posted by PittyPat
          And what with how sloppy, slow and old Vitali is these days... well, it's clear to see that any HW would have a much better chance of beating him than the current prime Wlad. I find it absolutely laughable as to how delusional people are when it comes to biggin up "mean, badass" Vitali (mainly because of his KO record and so-called "killer instinct"), but not the better brother overall - Wlad.

          Vitali has horrendous footwork (as flat-footed as you can get), keeps his hands at thigh-height, doesn't have much of a jab to speak of (which, in his case, is just a pawing rangefinder), and has always had stamina problems after about 3 or 4 rounds. Yeah, there's that nasty right hand to deal with, but once a fighter can become brave enough to get past that we'll see his chin truly tested. And he has no inside game at all. Lennox and Sanders proved that with effort.

          Meanwhile Wlad has great footwork (cuts the ring off effectively), keeps his hands nice and high, has easily the best and hardest jab in the biz, and seems to have sorted out his stamina problems that plagued him earlier on. His right hand, too (whenever he decides to use it), is devastating. To even get on the inside of Wlad is the biggest challenge in that ring for anyone facing him. If you stay on the outside, you're fucked.
          I'm guessing Haye is going to use the same tactic he was going to use against Wlad, which is to fight like Tyson.

          Just staying in the inside, bob and weave the right hand.

          It'll work if he hasn't bulked up to try and match VK in size. His speed is the biggest factor here.

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          • Lacrimosa
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            #25
            Originally posted by PittyPat
            And what with how sloppy, slow and old Vitali is these days... well, it's clear to see that any HW would have a much better chance of beating him than the current prime Wlad. I find it absolutely laughable as to how delusional people are when it comes to biggin up "mean, badass" Vitali (mainly because of his KO record and so-called "killer instinct"), but not the better brother overall - Wlad.

            Vitali has horrendous footwork (as flat-footed as you can get), keeps his hands at thigh-height, doesn't have much of a jab to speak of (which, in his case, is just a pawing rangefinder), and has always had stamina problems after about 3 or 4 rounds. Yeah, there's that nasty right hand to deal with, but once a fighter can become brave enough to get past that we'll see his chin truly tested. And he has no inside game at all. Lennox and Sanders proved that with effort.

            Meanwhile Wlad has great footwork (cuts the ring off effectively), keeps his hands nice and high, has easily the best and hardest jab in the biz, and seems to have sorted out his stamina problems that plagued him earlier on. His right hand, too (whenever he decides to use it), is devastating. To even get on the inside of Wlad is the biggest challenge in that ring for anyone facing him. If you stay on the outside, you're fucked.
            Agreed a lot, but i wouldn`t count Vitali out! Yes, he became older, but he can **** still... And young Vitali vas very flexible and could avoid many punches...

            As for his chin, he is said to be down once, and that was when he did Kick-boxing(!!!) God knows how many years ago...

            If the fight with Wladimir occured i wouldn`t hesitate at all... But Haye is likely to fight Vit and i really don`t know on whom to bet yet...

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            • J.R
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              #26
              IMO Wlad will be a more dangerous opponent when David Haye beats Vitali, i would have preferred Haye to have taken Wlad out in June then fight Vitali early next year. Wlad still has age on his side so can afford to wait til 2010 and still be dangerous. BUT i am confident my fellow South Londoner will do the business, Millwall style.

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              • D-MiZe
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                #27
                Originally posted by ~Alar~
                Agreed a lot, but i wouldn`t count Vitali out! Yes, he became older, but he can **** still... And young Vitali vas very flexible and could avoid many punches...
                If Vitali has good odds, I'm still going to put a bet on him.

                One thing that will never change, no matter how old Vitali gets is his height and reach.

                Which is the big problem for anyone fighting either Klit.

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                • NorvernRob
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Demise
                  If Vitali has good odds, I'm still going to put a bet on him.

                  One thing that will never change, no matter how old Vitali gets is his height and reach.

                  Which is the big problem for anyone fighting either Klit.
                  Vitali is a massive favourite at 1/5 with Haye 10/3. (odds from Skybet)

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                  • GranTorino
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vitali1999
                    This fight i will bet on, i wouldn't dare bet on a Haye vs Wlad fight, because of Wlads questionable chin but i will bet all my points on Vitali by Ko, any takers?

                    Wlad doesn't have a questionable chin.

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                    • vitali1999
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PittyPat
                      I bet the VitMan comes in with another badass entrance. Haye... well, he'll just have to crank up Ain't No Stopping Me Now a little louder in that stadium. :laff2:

                      Still confident, though. vitali1999, our bet's still on right?
                      Yes, yes your on, and your the only person i can bet because well its for all my points.

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