Who's your favorite underachieving fighter?

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  • Scott9945
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    #21
    Originally posted by jreckoning
    See what I don't get, is some people are picking guys that achieved and defended their titles quite a bit.

    Aren't those achievements already?

    If they never did it or did it and just blew it after maybe one go, wouldn't they then be underachievers?
    Well you knew we were off the track when you saw Calzaghe's name on the poll. The guy retired an undefeated champion and multimillionaire. Not exactly the textbook description of an underacheiver.

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      Originally posted by jreckoning
      See what I don't get, is some people are picking guys that achieved and defended their titles quite a bit.

      Aren't those achievements already?

      If they never did it or did it and just blew it after maybe one go, wouldn't they then be underachievers?
      This question has several layers. I think James Toney clearly could have accomplished more. His talent and natural fighting instincts would have allowed for that. With regard to your average fighter he achieved a monumental amount, but not when you consider his natural talent...his "ceiling".

      Going by your description, I'd throw John Mugabi, Mario Martinez, Michael Dokes and Oba Carr out there.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Scott9945
        Well you knew we were off the track when you saw Calzaghe's name on the poll. The guy retired an undefeated champion and multimillionaire. Not exactly the textbook description of an underacheiver.
        Some think he cudda done more...fighting Dawson...not stayin in Wales all those years...

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          #24
          Johnny Tapia probably.

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            #25
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            This question has several layers. I think James Toney clearly could have accomplished more. His talent and natural fighting instincts would have allowed for that. With regard to your average fighter he achieved a monumental amount, but not when you consider his natural talent...his "ceiling".

            Going by your description, I'd throw John Mugabi, Mario Martinez, Michael Dokes and Oba Carr out there.
            Those are great names you listed.

            I just wonder people's definition of achievement because just about every guy in the poll has achieved pretty special things.

            It seems like it's taken to be as ALL TIME GREAT versus just mere champion by a lot of people.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              Some think he cudda done more...fighting Dawson...not stayin in Wales all those years...
              I understand your point. But Roy Jones could have fought Michalczewski in Germany and Lewis could have fought Klitschko again. That doesn't make them underachievers IMO.

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                #27
                Naz but come to think of it... you could argue that he overachieve depending on your point of view. But still... cheers to one of the most entertaining guys in boxing.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #28
                  Augustus and Joan Guzman.

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #29
                    How did calzaghe underachieve?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Infern0
                      How did calzaghe underachieve?
                      fighting old guys and staying in europe fighting euros?

                      Not me sayin it but that's their reasons for it.

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