oscar de la hoya

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Man im not the one acting like he lost all his big fights lol.. I couldn't give a **** what judges think on the fight tbfh they are mainly bent as ****, i can give you soo many examples of this..

Fact is his BIG fights he won a lot

His losses the Majority are very debatable/some fair reason for it

Hopkins: ****ing come on both in there primes Hopkins looked ****ing huge vs Dela Hoya

Pac: Weight drained and shot to ****.. who really thinks this win/loss means anything?

Mayweather: Sd vs the p4pnr1 Oscar couldn't pull the trigger at this stage either..

So basically the only loss to another big name in his prime was vs Mosley and yet he loses all his big fights?

[deemo]

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man it doesnt matter if everyone in the world thought he won except the judges, you cant change it

people always say it doesnt matter how he lost he still lost but it does matter.if you get completly dominated is one thing but to be in so many close decisions that could have went either way with so many great fighters is saying alot and he still won some of those fights too so once again oscar = atg

[the_blueprint]

Man im not the one acting like he lost all his big fights lol.. I couldn't give a **** what judges think on the fight tbfh they are mainly bent as ****, i can give you soo many examples of this..

Fact is his BIG fights he won a lot

His losses the Majority are very debatable/some fair reason for it

Hopkins: ****ing come on both in there primes Hopkins looked ****ing huge vs Dela Hoya

Pac: Weight drained and shot to ****.. who really thinks this win/loss means anything?

Mayweather: Sd vs the p4pnr1 Oscar couldn't pull the trigger at this stage either..

So basically the only loss to another big name in his prime was vs Mosley and yet he loses all his big fights?

trinidad

size doesnt matter with hopkins, and he did do well in the mayweather jr. fight.

im not saying he lost all his big fights, he kicked vargas' arse!

[the_blueprint]

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people always say it doesnt matter how he lost he still lost but it does matter.if you get completly dominated is one thing but to be in so many close decisions that could have went either way with so many great fighters is saying alot and he still won some of those fights too so once again oscar = atg

did say about the way he lost i said it doesnt matter he lost.

im out for a bit be back later

[MOTHER DUCKER]

trinidad

size doesnt matter with hopkins, and he did do well in the mayweather jr. fight.

im not saying he lost all his big fights, he kicked vargas' arse!

No but you said most and people have listed his resume which has some very big wins and yeah i forgot Trinidad, but then again i dunno how you win 8-9 rounds or so then lose the fight without being KTFO.

In his prime i can only see the Mosley 1 that i have seen him clearly beaten in a big fight.

[the_blueprint]

No but you said most and people have listed his resume which has some very big wins and yeah i forgot Trinidad, but then again i dunno how you win 8-9 rounds or so then lose the fight without being KTFO.

In his prime i can only see the Mosley 1 that i have seen him clearly beaten in a big fight.

could say clottey is going to be an ATG, he fights the best and had a very close fight with cotto

[nouseforaname]

He fought the best, and most of the time lost, doesn't matter how close it was, the way i see it, he "could" have beaten Tito, Mosley once and Mayweather, no chance in the others, but they were close fights and he came up in the short end, there's no changing that.

Still i'm pretty sure most of you guys would appreciate if someone came along and battled the bigger names from 135 to 168 or somewhere in between, and made a run for their money. it'd be just like Oscar, a big attraction, not a great fighter.

[Squabbles94806]

who did he beat? vargas, mayorga, sturm and gatti. thats about it.

he lost to mosley x2, hopkins, trinidad, mayweather jr and pacquaio.

he's overrated, when he fought the best he was beaten on most occasions, not all but most. i think someone like jermain taylor has beat more people that are big names, but all this is my opinion.

I share the same opinion.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

could say clottey is going to be an ATG, he fights the best and had a very close fight with cotto

Clottey has faced Cotto and Margaritto and lost and unlike Dela Hoya hasn't beaten anybody of real meaning, a ******ed comparison especially when the guys Dela hoya supposedly lost too are ATG, you think Margacheatto and Cotto will be?

People have included Oscar's resume which has plenty of big names/good fighters he beat and you say he has hardly won a big fight..

Im saying right now only guys he ever lost a big fight to in his prime:

Mosley and Trinidad * (dunno how its possible to win 8-9 rounds then lose without getting KTFO but anyway..