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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    Originally posted by larrysmith
    props to oscar for taking risk..no doubt.....
    Oscar's risks were very calculated. Like refusing a rematch with Mosley until Mosley hadn't won a fight in about 2+ years. Refusing Vargas until it looked like El Feroz had lost his bite, etc.

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    • deemo
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      #22
      if he dont get credit for beating pea then floyd dont get credit for beating him.
      like someone else said the only fights that he actually lost were to hopkins and manny. all the other fights could have went either way and thats saying alot because of the people he fought. delahoya = all time great!!

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      • MOTHER DUCKER
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        #23
        [QUOTE=LDB15;5689551]who did he beat? vargas, mayorga, sturm and gatti. thats about it.

        he lost to mosley x2, hopkins, trinidad, mayweather jr and pacquaio.
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        Then you look at it properly Mosley is my boy btw and you have it like this:

        He beat Mosley the second time
        He beat Trinidad
        He lost to Hopkins way out of his normal division
        He lost to Mayweather the best p4p apparently when he was shot ONLY by sd and Lost to Pac weight drained a shot to ****, i dont even count that loss..

        You just come of as hater-ish tbh no one round here overates Dela hoya most **** on him..

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        • Cleto_Reyes
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          #24
          Originally posted by John-Locke-9-22
          When did De La Hoya beat Hatton? I don't remember that.
          I never said that. I was posting mayweathers resume...

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          • larry x
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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Oscar's risks were very calculated. Like refusing a rematch with Mosley until Mosley hadn't won a fight in about 2+ years. Refusing Vargas until it looked like El Feroz had lost his bite, etc.
            damn it man..im trying to be politically correct here....lol

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            • the_blueprint
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              #26
              [QUOTE=snootz86;5689704][QUOTE=LDB15;5689551]who did he beat? vargas, mayorga, sturm and gatti. thats about it.

              he lost to mosley x2, hopkins, trinidad, mayweather jr and pacquaio.

              Then you look at it properly Mosley is my boy btw and you have it like this:

              He beat Mosley the second time
              He beat Trinidad

              He lost to Hopkins way out of his normal division
              He lost to Mayweather the best p4p apparently when he was shot ONLY by sd and Lost to Pac weight drained a shot to ****, i dont even count that loss..

              You just come of as hater-ish tbh no one round here overates Dela hoya most **** on him..
              well he didnt did he

              and a loss is a loss doesn't matter what you think, and im not a hater as i said i used to like him and still give him props that he did fight the best at the time.

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              • larry x
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                #27
                people stop saying he beat mosley...cause he didnt..no matter what you think he officially lost..lets quote real wins not fictional ones

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                  #28
                  De La Hoya's Resume Of Wins
                  Giorgio Campanella (20-0)
                  Rafael Ruelas (43-1)
                  Genaro Hernandez (32-0)
                  Jesse James Leija
                  Julio Cesar Chavez x2
                  Miguel Angel Gonzalez (41-0)
                  Pernell Whitaker
                  Hector Camacho
                  Ike Quartey (34-0)
                  Oba Carr
                  Arturo Gatti
                  Javier Castillejo
                  Fernando Vargas
                  Felix Sturm (20-0)
                  Ricardo Mayorga

                  I always find people underrate Oscar's resume. I think his resume is pretty impressive. And I feel Felix Trinidad and Shame Mosely also should be on that resume aswell, but Whitaker is very debetable and Sturm should not be.

                  But other than that De La Hoya has some great wins, and to say he has really beat no one is bogus.

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                  • MOTHER DUCKER
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                    #29
                    [QUOTE=LDB15;5689749][QUOTE=snootz86;5689704]
                    Originally posted by LDB15
                    who did he beat? vargas, mayorga, sturm and gatti. thats about it.

                    he lost to mosley x2, hopkins, trinidad, mayweather jr and pacquaio.


                    well he didnt did he

                    and a loss is a loss doesn't matter what you think, and im not a hater as i said i used to like him and still give him props that he did fight the best at the time.
                    In the record books no he lost, but real boxing fans know he won them specially the Trinidad fight. So if we are honest in his big fight loses he lost too Mosley x1 (clearly), Hopkins (out of his weight class), Mayweather (close/end of his career) and Pac (which shouldn't even count based on how drained/old he was)

                    2 BIG fights in his prime he for sure lost one of which the opponent had huge advantages over him.. He loses all/most of his big fights? right...
                    Last edited by MOTHER DUCKER; 07-15-2009, 10:55 AM.

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                    • the_blueprint
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                      #30
                      [QUOTE=snootz86;5689765][QUOTE=LDB15;5689749]
                      Originally posted by snootz86

                      In the record books no he lost, but real boxing fans know he won them specially the Trinidad fight. So if we are honest in his big fight loses he lost too Mosley x1 (clearly), Hopkins (out of his weight class), Mayweather (close/end of his career) and Pac (which shouldn't even count based on how drained/old he was)

                      2 BIG fights in his prime he for sure lost one of which the opponent had huge advantages over him..
                      man it doesnt matter if everyone in the world thought he won except the judges, you cant change it

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