Rocky Marciano vs Joe Frazier ~ Who Would Win?

[Sister Sledge]

and now its my turn to agree with you. Ali did not have the same legs against Frazier that he did against Liston for example, but Frazier beat him as close to his prime as anyone ever did, and if we are talking ALI and not CLAY then Frazier beat a prime ALI because in reality when he changed names he also changed as a fighter and in my mind the two "careers" are almost seperate, like the difference between old Foreman and young Foreman.

The Ali that Frazier beat had just beat two top fighters easily, so Frazier concievably beat a fighter that was just as good, if not better than the old Ali. We shouldn't forget that Frazier was the toughest fighter Ali ever faced and Frazier possibly could have beaten a young Ali also just because their styles were so different. Hopkins legs aren't the same as they were 10 years ago but who would you think is a better fighter, a young Hopkins or the one today?

[hollister]

Gloves were also smaller in the 50's than they were in the 70's

[Sir_Jose]

I don't know how to put this...yes he did. Apology accepted.

I dont know how to to say this...But you are a shamless nut hugger of every old white heavyweight.

[Kid Achilles]

Marciano wins by late round knockout in one of the greatest slugfests of all time. Marciano hit harder than Frazier and with both hands, had a much better chin, and his defense was just as good as Joe. He is a bit like Vitali in that he looks easy to hit but when you're in there with him it's a whole different story. Ali said he was extremely impressed with Marciano's defense when they sparred and this was an ancient, out of shape Rock fighting a prime Ali.

[scramwarrior]

Who knows who would win? We've all seen enough fights to know that any fighter can beat any fighter on any night. You can't really compare strengths and weaknesses because they could be neutralized for all we know. Frazier's power could be neutralized by Marciano's body work and so forth. The only way to really predict, and this is a toss-up, is toughness. Who would probably be the last man standing? I'd have to go with Marciano, who fought in a time when fighters were generally more rugged. The only rugged fighter who Frazier ever fought was Foreman, who absolutely destroyed him. But you never know.....

[bobbyjones]

The Ali that Frazier beat had just beat two top fighters easily, so Frazier concievably beat a fighter that was just as good, if not better than the old Ali. We shouldn't forget that Frazier was the toughest fighter Ali ever faced and Frazier possibly could have beaten a young Ali also just because their styles were so different. Hopkins legs aren't the same as they were 10 years ago but who would you think is a better fighter, a young Hopkins or the one today?

Never thought of it that way but also could it be that Ali won the second two fights because he addapted to Frazier's style because he was the SMARTER fighter?

[Sister Sledge]

Never thought of it that way but also could it be that Ali won the second two fights because he addapted to Frazier's style because he was the SMARTER fighter?

That's true, he was a smarter fighter, but I think Frazier won the second fight. Judges loved Ali.

[Boxhead2012]

Excellent match-up. I would have to go with Rocky by decision. Probably knockdowns from both fighters though.

[whdempsey]

I dont know how to to say this...But you are a shamless nut hugger of every old white heavyweight.

Oh no, I am capable of shame. I mean, I'm ashamed to be in the same forum as a reverse-racist moron like yourself, who won't give any white fighter credit when it's due ****ING EVER. But I'm never ashamed of my opinions. And opinions are really all they are. Same as what you said, you ****-eating ******. You can't tell me that I'm wrong because YOU DON'T KNOW! You don't know whether Roack Marciano would lose to Joe Fraizer or whether Jack Dempsey would lose to Lennox Lewis. No one does. We're all guessing here. I mean, clearly, my guesses are more educated than yours, since most of the time I back them up with fact. Like the way I do know that Rocky Marciano's workrate was higher than Joe Frazier's because it's a STATISTICAL ****ING FACT. You ****. Jose, you're a horse's ass who gets personal every single ****ing chance you get. You should be banned for being an uncivil scrotum-sucker.

Did I ever discredit Joe Frazier? No. No I didn't. I never brought race into the discussion, either. Never do, as a matter of fact. You're abso-****ing-lutely fixated on it. **** you, go to hell, and every other curse word I can't think of right now because I'm so astounded by your imbecility. Blow me.

[stix]

OK On a lighter note, I think these two cats would have beat the **** out of each other. It would have, or at least might have, been a contender for the most brutal bout. It would have been a tough fight for both men, and I don't think either one of them would have been in any hurry to have a rematch.