pacman has fought at 147

[UnDeniable]

no jmm called floyd out and went to ww to fight him

If Floyd is the huge WW his haters say he is, isn't JMM technically trying to drain Floyd at 144 coming off a 2 year layoff

[larry x]

If Floyd is the huge WW his haters say he is, isn't JMM technically trying to drain Floyd at 144 coming off a 2 year layoff

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[theAleph]

no jmm called floyd out and went to ww to fight him

Well, you're absolutely correct 144, where JMM and Floyd are fighting, is considered welterweight. I have no problem with that. In fact anywhere between 141-147 is welterweight which is where and Cotto will end up fighting.

So, again, what is the point of this thread if we agree about how welterweight is defined.

[larry x]

I am on topic. It's about the hypocrisy of attacking Pac for the same offense that Floyd is guilty of. So if Floyd does the same, it's ok, But, if Pac does it, it is not? Am I following your logic here.

At least, be consistent. I have no problem with you saying **** catchweights. But, if you are against Pac fighting at catchweights you probably need to have the same derision against FLoyd fighting at a catchweight. At least, attack fighting at catchweights in principle and not just attacking a specific fighter.

floyd has never fought a catchweight fight...jmm wanted this fight at 144..not floyd..get it right and keep it right

[larry x]

Well, you're absolutely correct 144, where JMM and Floyd are fighting, is considered welterweight. I have no problem with that. In fact anywhere between 141-147 is welterweight which is where and Cotto will end up fighting.

So, again, what is the point of this thread if we agree about how welterweight is defined.

so why wont pacman fight cotto at 145???why the demands of 143??cause he wants cotto drained plain and simple

[UnDeniable]

I am on topic. It's about the hypocrisy of attacking Pac for the same offense that Floyd is guilty of. So if Floyd does the same, it's ok, But, if Pac does it, it is not? Am I following your logic here.

At least, be consistent. I have no problem with you saying **** catchweights. But, if you are against Pac fighting at catchweights you probably need to have the same derision against FLoyd fighting at a catchweight. At least, attack fighting at catchweights in principle and not just attacking a specific fighter.

I think what he means is Floyd went up to 154 to fight the much larger Oscar, not a catchweight

Floyd went up to 147 to fight the 163lb Baldomir not a catchweight

Floyd has been outweighed more times than Manny

[theAleph]

floyd has never fought a catchweight fight...jmm wanted this fight at 144..not floyd..get it right and keep it right

Agreed, 144 is considered welterweight not a catchweight. Gotcha.

[larry x]

Agreed, 144 is considered welterweight not a catchweight. Gotcha.

i see you avoid the question..why wont pacman fight cotto at 145..hell why not let cotto weight what he wants and just worry about what he weights??

[theAleph]

I think what he means is Floyd went up to 154 to fight the much larger Oscar, not a catchweight

Floyd went up to 147 to fight the 163lb Baldomir not a catchweight

Floyd has been outweighed more times than Manny

And he's fighting a career featherweight at 144 lbs, which according to many experts here is a catchweight. So,it's ok for Floyd to fight JMM at 144 and it's wrong for Pac to fight Cotto at 144? Explain.

[theAleph]

i see you avoid the question..why wont pacman fight cotto at 145..hell why not let cotto weight what he wants and just worry about what he weights??

Because one comes in as a middleweight, the other comes in as a welterweight. I think that should be fairly obvious.

Aren't you the same guys who were saying Floyd was too small for Cotto?