BOXING GREATNESS: Inborn Talent or Hard Work?

[TredKiller]

Hard, Hard work,

rocky marciano was far from the most gifted athlet,
or naturally talented, but threw hard work and determination, he became great.

joe frazier wasnt naturally talented either, small, kinda slow, but he developed a style that took care of that.

Marco antonio barrera isnt the most gifted athlet,
but he found a way

JCC was far from a naturally gifted athlet, slow, never looked that smooth,
but threw hard work he did it,


sure if your natural talented then it helps (roy jones)
but if your not naturally talented it doesnt mean you'll never be good at boxing,
saying that is crazy, carl froch isnt natrally talented, and he's a champ,

if you have a dream, and your willng to work 110% at it,
you find a way.

[Cotto Rules]

You need talent to be a great fighter, a legend.
But sometimes very undergifted fighters like Carlos Baldomir or Gatti make it to the top because of hard work, self confidence and will. On the other hand, very talented guys like Zab Judah will never be great because of their lack of will, heart and hard work.

The perfect combo is talent, hard work and will. If you have the skill and the will, you can become like Bernard Hopkins or Mayweather. That"s the elite in boxing, only very few have what it takes to go that far.

But at some point if you work REALLY hard and do things to improve your skills hours and hours, you can't not have some success. I mean of my friends who's a guitar player said to me that he got that good because he spent 7 hours a day doin his stuff. I think if you work hard in boxing like a psycho you can go pretty far. You can be a good boxer with hard work and dedication.

But there are some guys who train boxing for a long time and still don't know how to throw a jab or move their head.
Charlie Zelenoff could train in the Kronk gym 24/7 for 100 years, he still wouldn't be any good.

[REMOVED SHARK 99]

85% Talent.

You can be training all your life but it's what you got, what you're born with that determines how far you go.

I truely believe that training can only get you so far until you get destroyed, E.g Hatton.

[eazy_mas]

you could have inborn talent but it will only take you to someplace and you stop.

example of Zab Judah,Nassem Hamed and Mayorga

But for greatness if a person trains really really hard I dont think he will let his body fall down easily because he so emotional on the hard work he have done.

but inborn talents help alot he learns quicker and have a clear advantage against someone who starts from scratch.

but it all depends on the person himself at the end of the day hard work is the most vital part not only in boxing but also in life.

[chilost]

I say its a lil mix but more of hard work than anything.

You could be born with all the talent in the world but it wont mean **** unless you polish them skills & work to keep them or make them better.


Look people who had good the talent & a let it go to waste.

Camacho sr & jr, chavez jr, jermain taylor.. So on & so on

gotta hit that gym & work hard, real hard.

[eazy_mas]

85% Talent.

You can be training all your life but it's what you got, what you're born with that determines how far you go.

I truely believe that training can only get you so far until you get destroyed, E.g Hatton.

Hatton is not good example of someone who trains hard.

I will name boxer who are known to train hard and they are the top of p4p of todays boxing

Bernad Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Manny Pacquia

these guys are known to train very very hard and take a look at them now.

[REMOVED SHARK 99]

If you measure it in a bar, Talent is the maximum you can obtain.

Hard work is how much you fufill of the talent and how much potential you reach.

Not alot of talent can only get you so far, having all the talent and being a lazy bum you might as well not even bother.

Stamina you can increase, speed and power to the extent of you're talent and hard work and the chin which can only really be improved skill-wise.

[REMOVED SHARK 99]

Hatton is not good example of someone who trains hard.

I will name boxer who are known to train hard and they are the top of p4p of todays boxing

Bernad Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Manny Pacquia

these guys are known to train very very hard and take a look at them now.

I don't think any more training than he usually does can beat Mayweather, him against Pacman was all down to the gameplan and his mentalty into the fight.

I think people like Gatti are a better example but I don't know because I can't measure how much training they put into the fight, just take there word when they say they are 100% fit and in the shape of there life e.g. Hatton lol

[Tmann400]

well..in my own personel opinion. it comes down to the type of person you are emotionally, mentally, physically and to have a mentor/trainer that you trust and respect by your side for instance (tyson and cus d'mato). you have to have the will to want to perfect the way you box. study yourself in the mirror when throwing punches work for hours at bringing your hands back up everytime you throw a punch..and depending on the individual you are coming from poverty and a rough life can either motivate you are destroy your confidence..i mean from a personel perspective the first person i ever fought and beat up was my stepfather and as sick as it sounds when i beat him up i felt alot of confidence and power consume me afterwards because he was an ex-marine..but as much as it is said the boxing game is mostly mental and it well and truely is..look at b-hop for instance he lost his first fight it wasnt a terrible loss but still it could of been really bad for him..now imagine he never fought again?..but anyway my point comes down to this. you have to have the confidence. the mental toughness and a trainer/mentor that you trust and respect to help you get far in a career..freddie roach may be one of the best trainers but no matter how good he is he may not work well with that person because they just cant learn to trust him respect him etc. i mean jack leow probably would work better with kelly than roach because kelly has been with him for so long..anyway im done rambling just expressing how i feel about your question

[eazy_mas]

I don't think any more training than he usually does can beat Mayweather, him against Pacman was all down to the gameplan and his mentalty into the fight.

I think people like Gatti are a better example but I don't know because I can't measure how much training they put into the fight, just take there word when they say they are 100% fit and in the shape of there life e.g. Hatton lol

everybody has a potental to become a boxing champion even you and me.

depends on how much you want it against the others.


As for potential goes nobody know how big his potiental enless he tries to.

Yes sometimes in one stage you will stop growing but that doesnt mean you wont grow. If you want some dramatic growing you have to see something much different approach.


as far as the fight goes it true what you said about Manny vs Floyd it would probably be the gameplan because both of this fighters are known to come into the fight 100% fitness.

but also it never too late to learn something new.