Why the **** are people calling Cotto shot?

[oside4life]

o and another thing how in the hell do u put pictures underneath your screen names can someone help me out please

[F l i c k e r]

o and another thing how in the hell do u put pictures underneath your screen names can someone help me out please

user CP at the top, click it. On the left, go to edit avatar. Click browse, choose a pic, and done.

[Motofan]

Cotto loses to Clottey (by most accounts) and has been getting hit alot more in his fights then normal. Not shot, but he's slipping.

[sycomantz]

cotto is not the same fighter he was since Marg. my friends in PR are saying that cotto is losing focus.

out partying and being found passed out in the streets. during training, he stops to answwer calls from chics hours on end

the tats are a dead give away his mental confidence isnt there

[oside4life]

thanks for the help. But to the last reply i really don't think cotto is not passing out on the sleep. And two a mentally weak person who a person who is not mentally strong stops during the clottey fight with that cut and with clottey putting the pressure on. Till i see cotto out drinking which is not a bad thing if ur not in training. But till i see him coked up pics or him overweight like hatton just ain't flying with me.

[oside4life]

just wanted to post how excited i am for nov. 14 lol

[Iceta]

I don't know if Cotto is shot. He has taken a lot of punishment though. I have called him damaged here lately because it's true. If he has not lost brain cells, he has a cut that needs healed up. Pacquiao has got a weakness to exploit from that when the fight happens. Cotto needs to improve his defense if he wants to make it at the top level. You would think his defense would be better with the ring genaralship he displays. But he doesn't have a good defense. It's not just the fight with Margarito that has messed him up. It's the accumulation of tough fights that he has fought. Torres, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey are fighters he took a lot of punishment from. That opposition is very good though. I can't deny that. But you wonder how much longer Cotto can keep taking the punishment he takes.

[Iceta]

And of course Cotto's defense didn't prevent that cut in the fight with Clottey from happening. What I'm saying is that would've happened any way with the way their heads came together. Cotto couldn't do anything about that.

[Spacey1991]

I wouldn't say he is shot... but we still don't know if he is still the same after the Margarito fight, I mean Jennings was a confidence build up and Clottey he struggled with but he did have a nasty cut over his eye so we don't know whether that had loads to do with it or not.

He aint shot IMO, but I don't know whether he is the same... even Sin City said that to me, he doesn't think he is the same anymore... like the Margarito fight took something out of him.

[Beater_of_ass]

I'm just going to put what I had in another thread, its long as hell but I'm not about to type all that **** all over again in another thread with the same topic.

Stop the one eye excuse FFS. HE could SEE OUT OF IT. Know what's fighting on one eye? Judah is virtually every fight he lost has had bad swelling, that's fighting on one eye.

Apparently when you have blood constantly dripping into your eye you'll have perfect vision then? Have you ever got sweat in your eye? It stings, and its difficult to not rub at it, now do that with blood, for 27 minutes, constantly dripping into it... THEN have a guy punch you there randomly as hard as he can for those 27 minutes. Yea, he has to be shot because anyone else could handle that with ease, I mean decisively KO a guy whose never been knocked out in his career, Cotto is definitely a bum.

As for the Marg/Clottey, Clottey supposedly hurt his hand was giving Marg the business. Its funny... because anyone Marg beats is an overrated piece of trash. Cotto and Clottey are great examples, yet in the Cotto fight, Marg may have well been using casts instead of gloves and in the Clottey fight Clottey hurt his hand. His two biggest performance of his career, arguably, and both are not all that convincing. He cheated in one, maybe, and the other his opponent got hurt.

As for the topic I'm not going to judge just based off the cover. I'd have to read the article first and see if they answer the question pro or negative. If its negative the article is definitely biased, the guy has a VERY difficult fight that EVERY analyst interviewed said was going to be a VERY close fight. And it was a very close fight, but only because Cotto is shot. I mean Jesus, Clottey was being touted as one of the best in the division, a very tough fighter. The guy gives Cotto a very hard fight, the guy is a great fighter and then they totally shun not only Cotto by saying he looked bad in victory but then give Clottey no credit saying that Cotto should have won clearly, though leading up to the fight everyone felt it was going to be a close one.

As for the Cotto/Clottey fight being completely one sided in Clottey's favor you are ****** if you think that.

Round 1: 10-8 Cotto for the knockdown.
Round 2: Close could have gone either way.
Round 3: Close, either way, cut happens in this round
Round 4: Cotto clearly. He threw 77 punches and had Clottey on the ropes for a while
Round 5: Clottey, more accurate punches
Round 6: Cotto throws 96 punches and has Clottey on the ropes for over a minute straight.
Round 7: Clottey
Round 8: Clottey
Round 9: Clottey
Round 10: I initially had this for Clottey but at the end of the round Cotto lands a huge left, followed by another one. Clottey wasn't "hurt" by the punch in terms of being KO'd, however, it hurt him in the sense that he knew he had to be careful because Cotto's power was a danger, just looked at the facial expression, he wasn't shaking his head to either of those bombs. This one could still go either way.
Round 11: I had Cotto, but a lot of people even judges gave Cotto 10 and Clottey this round so again either way.
Round 12: Cotto clearly. Clottey was just running in doing a lot of nothing. Cotto may not have WON the round but Clottey certainly lost it.

Overall I had the fight dead even, 6 rounds to 6. However, the knockdown gives Cotto a 1 point win. If you watch the fight again, Cotto I think would have controlled Clottey a lot more. Just watch rounds 4 and 6 again, but Cotto backed off because he was getting just blasted with rights in the 5th, 7th and 8th round when he tried doing so and really stepped up his attack to the body. The cut was obviously hindering his vision so he changed up his tactics and did as Steward said, that Cotto had to get Clottey coming in and we see exactly the results in the 10th, the Cotto left hand bombs.

Now that I think about it though, I guess people were expecting the Cotto they saw in all his fights prior to the Marg fight. Judah, Corley and Torres in all those fights Cotto kept coming forward and just overpowering these guys to win. I think it was the Mosley fight that changed Cotto though, not Marg. Cotto saw, and I think for the first time that his power wasn't enough to really KO the elite tier of the WW division. If your power isn't there to KO a guy what else are you supposed to do... box. Cotto isn't exactly the best boxer, and perhaps that's why its looked at as tiring. Perhaps because he did well in the Mosley fight boxing they (trainer/cotto himself) felt it was the same for Marg, and for 6 rounds it did work. Marg may have been cheating, and/or Cotto may have used a bad game plan, but that's hardly being past your prime.

You have to think, the Clottey fight was not only a difficult match-up for Cotto, or anyone else in that division for that matter, but he also had to deal with that nasty cut. It was his first real challenge after the Marg bout, he had just lost a relationship with his uncle/long time trainer and his new trainer had literally NO experience as a trainer in boxing, ever. I personally feel you give Cotto a professional trainer for his camp and the fight and his tactics of being more of a counter puncher on Clottey would have shown up sooner. Steward had been saying that's the only way Cotto was going to catch Clottey with a solid punch since about the 2nd or 3rd round. Cotto didn't figure it out till about 9 or 10 rounds in, well... him or his trainer. I also have a feeling that the camp for Cotto wasn't so much a "learning" camp as a refining camp.

One thing I noticed is they worked on his defense a little bit. Early in the fight he kept his gloves closed to not allow the up the middle punches get threw but that fell by the wayside mid-fight. I think more than anything they just hoped Cotto's current skill would be enough to get him through the fight and just work on conditioning as his trainer was/is his nutritionist.

I still hope Cotto takes Stewards offer of training him for the Paq fight. Not necessarily because Steward knows a way to beat Paq, but because he is able to see Cotto so well. He knows Cotto's weakness and can really help Cotto clean up as an overall fighter. I also think he knows exactly how to "use" Cotto, by that I mean how Cotto will win his fights. Perhaps Cotto has reached his plateau in boxing and he just needs something to push him to his peak. Then again, Cotto has won all of his fights, except the very questionable Margarito fight, against the best fighters, not only in his division but possibly in boxing. Sure, it hasn't been easy but to think the guy is passed his prime because he didn't do it as well as some have liked, me included, doesn't mean we should just throw him by the wayside. There has to be some reason Manny and Roach want Cotto to weigh in as little as possible.