after watching sugar ray robinson

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

It's safe to say imo he would be at least a top ten fighter today


look at his power reach..and handspeed throwing bolos

[TheGreatA]

It's safe to say imo he would be at least a top ten fighter today


look at his power reach..and handspeed throwing bolos

I would like to know of any other welterweight today with this kind of speed and power:

[Doctor_Tenma]

Actually they do. I'd say that there is around 50 filmed fights of Ray Robinson.

Where at?!

[nujabes77]

I would like to know of any other welterweight today with this kind of speed and power:

*bows* *bows* *bows*

[TheGreatA]

Where at?!

They've got most on youtube...

I'm certain that the following films exist (since I've seen them):

Robinson vs
Joey Archer
Earl Bastings
Emile Saerans
George Estatoff
Mick Leahy
Gaylord Barnes
Joey Giardello
Terry Downes
Denny Moyer (I & II)
Wilf Greaves
Gene Fullmer (all four fights)
Paul Pender (I & II)
Carmen Basilio (I & II)
Bobo Olson (II, III & IV)
Rocky Castellani
Garth Panter
Ralph Jones
Joey Maxim
Rocky Graziano
Randy Turpin (I & II)
Cyrille Delannoit
Gerhard Hecht
Hans Stretz
Luc Van Dam
Jean Walzack
Jake LaMotta
Jean Stock
Bobby Dykes
Charley Fusari
Robert Villemain
Cliff Becket
Ray Barnes
Freddie Flores
Tony Riccio
Bernard Docusen
Sammy Angott
Georgie Abrams

Amateur fights vs
Ancona
Valentine
Nonnell

There might be more but that's already around 50 fights.

[larry x]

thread started is an obvious alt trying to stir up some **** on here..even thought i dont agree with srr being the greatest of alltime

[Cotto Rules]

I think people say TS is an idiot and **** but that's unfair, i think he made an interesting point. People blindly praise the old school without knowing that much about it, like people doin it the other way around.

A guy like Henry Armstrong, who is one of my favourite fighters ever, let his head above his legs too much, when he was pressuring fighters. I wonder if his style would translate very well nowadays.
Zab Judah would get beat easily by Robinson but Mayweather represents a better prototype of the modern athlete/ boxer and has the total package. I believe Mayweather would have given a hard time to those old school guys. In soccer it's the same thing i doubt Pele could do as good as Lionel Messi, even though fans would say Pele is God himself and that Messi is a simple mortal..

Nowadays fighters have better trainings, supplements and use calisthenics much more than they did in the past, and muscle building exercises. Plus with the videos and the experience of old school guys, those youngsters have the chance to see the evolution of the sport, what did work, what didn't work that well, what could be improved. For example look at Toney and Whitaker: when you see them you're pretty sure they watched old school fights of Willie Pep, Gene Tunney, Niccolino Loche, etc..but they used those old school tactics and combined that with their modern training and brought defensive boxing at another level.

SRR and his opponents had none of that. So it's not ****** to say that nowadays fighters would have other advantages against them.

[travestyny]

OMG Triple hook? Who does that today? Who does it as fast?

SRR was the truth, and it's plain to see.

[Burner]

Mayweather would give SRR hell at 147 pounds....

As would Whitaker.....

Roy Jones Jr.....at any weight.

Bernard Hopkins at anyweight...


All beat SRR.

[Burner]

OMG Triple hook? Who does that today? Who does it as fast?

SRR was the truth, and it's plain to see.

Clottey and Roy Jones did the triple hook to perfection..its accurate and fast sorry to rain on your parade.