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  • TheGreatA
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    He should go down to cruiserweight if he loses decisively.

    Other than that there is absolutely no reason for him to go down to a division which is basically treated as the minor leagues, with less money and coverage.

    Actually all 190-210 lb heavyweights should be encouraged to compete at heavyweight, as long as they have the ability. I'm almost certain that the majority of today's top 10 heavyweights could make 200 lbs, excluding the Klitschko brothers and Valuev.
    Last edited by TheGreatA; 07-08-2009, 06:48 PM.

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      #12
      yea a lot of them should be at cruiserweight

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        #13
        Originally posted by TheGreatA
        He should go down to cruiserweight if he loses decisively.

        Other than that there is absolutely no reason for him to go down to a division what is basically treated as the minor leagues, with less money and coverage.

        Actually all 190-210 lb heavyweights should be encouraged to compete at heavyweight, as long as they have the ability. I'm almost certain that the majority of today's top 10 heavyweights could make 200 lbs, excluding the Klitschko brothers and Valuev.
        any fighter who weighs in at a lean 210+lbs won't be able to make 200lbs healthily and alot of todays HW's are just too damn big - haye, povetkin, rahman, ruiz, thompson, dimitrenko, chagaev these are all names off the tio of my head and none of them imo would make 200lbs.

        arreola and chambers ae the only two guys i can think of who could make 200lbs. chambers in particular looked quite soft at 208, arreola is a big guy with a bigger frame and imo 200lbs might be just a bit too far.

        there are plenty of big fights at 200lbs especially adamek and maybe even a potential fight with dawson and hopkins. imo chambers needs to at least dedicate himself once in his career and make that weight for a megafight with adamek.

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          Originally posted by hookoutofhell
          any fighter who weighs in at a lean 210+lbs won't be able to make 200lbs healthily and alot of todays HW's are just too damn big - haye, povetkin, rahman, ruiz, thompson, dimitrenko, chagaev these are all names off the tio of my head and none of them imo would make 200lbs.
          Haye made 200 lbs not long ago.

          Povetkin weighs around 225 and looks about the same as Chambers did at that weight.



          Rahman couldn't, but then again he is hardly a top heavyweight these days.

          Ruiz could have made 200 but not anymore when he is older. He boxed as a light heavy in the amateur (when he was 20+ years old) and fought at under 220 lbs early in his career until he changed his style from a mover into a clincher. He put on more weight and used it to his advantage in the clinches.





          Tony Thompson and Dimitrenko are legit super heavyweight but have been dropped from the rankings after recent losses.

          Chagaev used to fight at 200 lbs as an amateur but put on more weight as he became a pro, in my opinion to his detriment. He looks slow and immobile these days.



          Denis Boytsov made the top 10 rankings recently, he is around 220 lbs but fairly solid.

          arreola and chambers ae the only two guys i can think of who could make 200lbs. chambers in particular looked quite soft at 208, arreola is a big guy with a bigger frame and imo 200lbs might be just a bit too far.
          Arreola used to weigh 175 when he fought as an amateur (he was in his 20's too). He has gone so far up in weight though that it would be impossible for him to drop the weight he is carrying.

          there are plenty of big fights at 200lbs especially adamek and maybe even a potential fight with dawson and hopkins. imo chambers needs to at least dedicate himself once in his career and make that weight for a megafight with adamek.
          I can't see Dawson or Hopkins being potential fights. The biggest fight would be Adamek but it would be nothing compared to the money he would make facing the Klitschko brothers, even if he would end up losing.
          Last edited by TheGreatA; 07-08-2009, 07:05 PM.

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          • paul750
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            Yeah, that's the thing. If you go down in weight after years of fighting at a higher weight, it's going to weaken you.

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              if chambers seriously wants to stay at hw, imho he needs to triple stack some steroids and get busy with the training. theres no way he can put on the muscle he needs to reign on the world level naturally, his body is too small.


              klitschkos only have a few years left in them. chambers just has to play it safe and avoid wladimir, lol. id give chambers a shot against vitali.

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                Originally posted by Dynamite Glove
                if chambers seriously wants to stay at hw, imho he needs to triple stack some steroids and get busy with the training. theres no way he can put on the muscle he needs to reign on the world level naturally, his body is too small.


                klitschkos only have a few years left in them. chambers just has to play it safe and avoid wladimir, lol. id give chambers a shot against vitali.
                Chambers should be 6'7 and weigh over 250 lbs like Alexander Dimitrenko to stand a chance in the heavyweight division... Oh wait.

                He is better off fighting at 208. Here's an interesting article for everyone to read about Chambers:

                Philly heavyweight Chambers slims down, tops Ukrainian for chance at title



                EDDIE CHAMBERS can't guarantee he'll never lose another boxing match. But the United States' brightest heavyweight hope is at least certain of one thing.

                No one will ever kick his "s" again.

                "No more 'Fat Eddie.' I'm 'Fast Eddie' again, and I'm going to stay that way," a smiling Chambers said yesterday afternoon at Philadelphia International Airport upon his return from Germany, where he achieved the most significant victory of his now very significant career. "Who knows? Maybe I can get an underwear commercial out of this."

                Slimmed down to 208 1/4 pounds, his lowest weight since he came in at 207 for a 2003 bout with Allen Smith at the Blue Horizon, Chambers outquicked and outhustled Ukrainian giant Alexander "Sascha" Dimitrenko to win a 12-round majority decision on the Fourth of July in Hamburg, Germany.

                In a scene right out of 1985's "Rocky IV," Chambers, who was booed by the pro-Dimitrenko crowd as he made his way to the ring at the Color Line Arena, so won over a majority of the spectators that the announcement of his unexpected triumph was greeted by loud, sustained applause.

                Chambers said he signed so many autographs afterward that he got a mild case of writer's cramp, and would have signed more had his manager-trainer, Rob Murray Sr., not insisted it was time to return to the hotel so he could get some rest.

                "All that was missing were Sylvester Stallone and an American flag to d**** around my shoulders. Sascha even looks a little like Dolph Lundgren [who played Ivan Drago in "Rocky IV"]," Chambers said of the surreal setting.

                In this case, though, real life proved more satisfying than anything Chambers could have imagined after seeing a movie. By dominating the 6-7, 253 1/2-pound Dimitrenko and handing him his first professional loss, Chambers, a half-foot shorter and whopping 45 1/4 pounds lighter, became the mandatory WBO challenger to WBO/IBF heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, also of Ukraine, the man widely regarded as the best heavyweight on the planet.

                Barring unforeseen circumstances, Chambers should get his shot at Klitschko (53-3, 47 KOs) within the next 6-to-8 months.

                Chambers (35-1, 18 KOs), a Pittsburgh native who relocated to Philly in the spring of 2002 for the express purpose of refining his boxing skills, officially was credited with two knockdowns. Referee Geno Rodriguez gave Dimitrenko (29-1, 19 KOs) a standing eight-count in the seventh round when Dimitrenko doubled over in pain from a left hook to the body. The Ukrainian claimed his distress was the result of a low blow, but Rodriguez ruled the punch was legal.

                Then, in the 10th round, Chambers sent Dimitrenko crashing to the canvas and his mouthpiece flying with a well-timed hook to the chin.

                The decision for Chambers should have been a given, but British judge Paul Thomas, ignoring the obvious, submitted a scorecard that read 113-113. His colleagues, Glenn Feldman and Fernando Laguna, gave Chambers the victory by turning in cards that had him winning by margins of 117-109 and 116-111, respectively.

                "I don't speak German, but I knew something was wrong when people started booing again," Chambers said of the change in the crowd when Thomas' score was announced. "After the sixth or seventh round, I had won over the crowd. When the people booed, I knew something bad had happened. I have to say, I was worried."

                Chambers is admittedly undersized in this area of heavyweights who look like NBA power forwards, which is why he scaled 223 pounds, one less than his career-high, for his previous bout, a 10-round, majority decision over former WBC heavyweight champion Samuel Peter, who came in at 265.

                "I thought the extra weight would make me bigger and stronger, but it just made me slower," Chambers said. "After the Peter fight, I took off 10 pounds in a week and a half. It came off easy. I vowed that I'd never get up over 215 again, even between fights."

                Murray said Chambers' rout of Dimitrenko is a blueprint of how he can take down Klitschko.

                "I didn't like Eddie at 223 for the Peter fight," Murray said. "He needed to be quicker, more fluid. But against Dimitrenko he showed how to beat a big man.

                "I know some people had written Eddie off as a Blue Horizon fighter, a club fighter. They said he was too short, too light, can't punch. A lot of people said some of the same things about Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey. They weren't real big guys, but they could fight. This kid can fight."

                Murray said he believes Chambers is the best heavyweight in the world, and that at the very least he should be recognized as America's best, although some have him a rung below Cristobal Arreola (27-0, 24 KOs), of Riverside, Calif., a more standard-sized big ****er at 6-4, 255.

                Wherever he deserves to be ranked, Chambers probably has established himself as the best Philadelphia heavyweight since Tyrell Biggs won the Olympic super heavyweight gold medal in 1984 and Tim Witherspoon twice held alphabet versions of the heavyweight title in the 1980s.

                "Keeping my weight down will help me stay effective," Chambers said. "I was sharper. I was faster. My movement was much better. I didn't have a jiggly midsection. It makes all the difference. I was able to get on my toes and stay on my toes. I had more energy throughout the fight.

                "I like the way my new body feels. I like the way it looks, too."
                EDDIE CHAMBERS can't guarantee he'll never lose another boxing match. But the United States' brightest heavyweight hope is at least certain of one thing.

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                  Originally posted by TheGreatA
                  Chambers should be 6'7 and weigh over 250 lbs like Alexander Dimitrenko to stand a chance in the heavyweight division... Oh wait.

                  He is better off fighting at 208. Here's an interesting article for everyone to read about Chambers:



                  http://www.philly.com/dailynews/spor..._at_title.html



                  Yeah remember how many guys bulked up against the Klitschkos and got their ass beat.
                  Your best fighting weight is when you are in optimal shape. Putting on 20 pounds isn't going to increase your power much at all. It's just going to decrease the thing Eddie needs the most, his speed.

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #19
                    he should go for the wba in my opinion, thats what everyone can do because no one can beat the dr k bros

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                      Originally posted by Infern0
                      he should go for the wba in my opinion, thats what everyone can do because no one can beat the dr k bros

                      WBA probably wouldn't even rank him. They are too busy ranking Ruiz, and Kali Meehan and protecting Chagaev.

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