Azumah Nelson vs Manny Pacquaio at 126, who wins?

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #41
    Originally posted by pacman777
    *sighs*

    i dont recall pernell beating chavez/oldh/trinidad... lost most of his biggest fights
    Pernell was way past his prime against Tito and as a matter of fact, although he was past it, he put up a really good fight. Also, Pernell beat JCC clearly and you can't even debate that. Not only that, he outlanded DLH and I myself believe he won that and so did alot of people.

    You can't even name a better fighter on Pacquiao's resume better then Azumah Nelson or JCC. You're very biased man, seriously.
    Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-03-2009, 08:22 AM.

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      #42
      Another thing, Pacquiao isn't the greatest south paw. Coming up, all he had was a 1-2, with his left straight being his money punch. Recently, he has developed a right hook. Where as, Whitaker and Hagler had every punch in their arsenal.
      Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-03-2009, 08:26 AM.

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      • DonTaseMeBrah
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        #43
        you guys are sooo wrong.....


        picking on a obvious pac nuthugger.....






        u know u not suppose to call double dribble on ******ed kids.


        Nothing wrong with being the 3rd greatest southpaw of all time. With enough time on his side to move up.
        Last edited by DonTaseMeBrah; 07-03-2009, 08:31 AM.

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        • talip bin osman
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          #44
          the 126 version of MP was still very raw, the 1st barrera fight notwithstanding...

          AN on the other hand went toe to toe against the great sal sanchez and ****in KOed PR legend bazooka gomez...

          AN was a proven commodity @ 126 highlighted by with wins over marc villasana, a very underrated fighter...

          @ 126, i hav to pick AN over MP...

          i honestly feel that a prime AN would exactly do the same thing MP had been doing lately...

          the guy has had a great resume/achievement/longevity...

          Mr. Nelson is among the most underrated ATGs IMO...

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Another thing, Pacquiao isn't the greatest south paw. Coming up, all he had was a 1-2, with his left straight being his money punch. Recently, he has developed a right hook. Where as, Whitaker and Hagler had every punch in their arsenal.
            Also Whitaker can fight with his back against the ropes, going backwards, in the inside. I mean a great inside fighter like JCC resorted to hitting Whitaker's thighs just to slow him down, want to know what happend? Whitaker whopped JCC's ass on the inside and had him breathing like a fat ***** by the 7th or 8th. Whitaker's body punching is very underated, this 5'5 1/2 little guy faught much bigger guys, JCV, JLR, Tito, DLH, Hurtado, JCC and the list goes on and on.

            Hagler could also fight going backwards, had good defense and can even fight out of an orthodox stance. Really good hand speed for a M.W.

            In no way is Pacquiao a better south paw. I really don't know about old old old school fighters, so I wouldn't know how to rate all the other great south paws in the history of boxing but I'm smart enough to know that Pacquiao isn't as good as Hagler or Whitaker.
            Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 07-03-2009, 08:44 AM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by talip bin osman
              the 126 version of MP was still very raw, the 1st barrera fight notwithstanding...

              AN on the other hand went toe to toe against the great sal sanchez and ****in KOed PR legend bazooka gomez...

              AN was a proven commodity @ 126 highlighted by with wins over marc villasana, a very underrated fighter...

              @ 126, i hav to pick AN over MP...

              i honestly feel that a prime AN would exactly do the same thing MP had been doing lately...

              the guy has had a great resume/achievement/longevity...

              Mr. Nelson is among the most underrated ATGs IMO...
              Not to take anything away from Salvador Sanchez (Greatest Mexican fighter in my opinion) but Azumah only had 13 fights, he was still very inexperienced. Sad that Salvador died, would have loved to have seen a rematch.

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              • Deja_Vous
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                #47
                Originally posted by talip bin osman
                the 126 version of MP was still very raw, the 1st barrera fight notwithstanding...

                AN on the other hand went toe to toe against the great sal sanchez and ****in KOed PR legend bazooka gomez...

                AN was a proven commodity @ 126 highlighted by with wins over marc villasana, a very underrated fighter...

                @ 126, i hav to pick AN over MP...

                i honestly feel that a prime AN would exactly do the same thing MP had been doing lately...

                the guy has had a great resume/achievement/longevity...

                Mr. Nelson is among the most underrated ATGs IMO...
                Sandy Sadler is even more underrated than Nelson.

                The guy had 104 KO's and was only stopped once,and that was in his second fight as a pro.

                He KO'd Willie Pep,Joe Brown,and the best Pinoy fighter ever Flash Elorde.

                Flash Elorde > Manny Pac

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  Also Whitaker can fight with his back against the ropes, going backwards, in the inside. I mean a great inside fighter like JCC resorted to hitting Whitaker's thighs just to slow him down, want to know what happend? Whitaker whopped JCC's ass on the inside and had him breathing like a fat ***** by the 7th or 8th. Whitaker's body punching is very underated, this 5'5 1/2 little guy faught much bigger man, JCV, JLR, Tito, DLH, Hurtado, JCC and the list goes on and on.

                  Hagler could also fight going backwards, had good defense and can even fight out of an orthodox stance. Really good hand speed for a M.W.

                  In no way is Pacquiao a better south paw. I really don't know about old old old school fighters, so I wouldn't know how to rate all the other good south paw but I'm smart enough to know that Pacquiao isn't as good as Hagler or Whitaker.
                  There were a couple of great ones but for the most part all southpaws were converted orthodox until lately. Hagler and Whitaker were two of the best, Pacquiao might come third. He has surpassed his countryman Flash Elorde in my opinion.

                  Vicente Saldivar, Tiger Flowers, Lew Tendler, Freddie Miller, Young Corbett III, Bert Lytell were all notable southpaws.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TheGreatA
                    There were a couple of great ones but for the most part all southpaws were converted orthodox until lately. Hagler and Whitaker were two of the best, Pacquiao might come third. He has surpassed his countryman Flash Elorde in my opinion.

                    Vicente Saldivar, Tiger Flowers, Lew Tendler, Freddie Miller, Young Corbett III, Bert Lytell were all notable southpaws.
                    There better be videos Machine

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                    • DonTaseMeBrah
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                      Sandy Sadler is even more underrated than Nelson.

                      The guy had 104 KO's and was only stopped once,and that was in his second fight as a pro.

                      He KO'd Willie Pep,Joe Brown,and the best Pinoy fighter ever Flash Elorde.

                      Flash Elorde > Manny Pac

                      its obvious that anything to do with pacquiao your gonna make ignorant post. i dont have a problem with it but at least give a boxing reason why.

                      there's a reason why u were included in a poll question as to who are the worst posters on boxingscene.

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