Wlad's been tested and failed 3 times....

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  • larry x
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    #21
    Originally posted by Chr0nic
    shut up larry or i''ll go ape **** on your ass, im gon scissor kick you in the back of the head!
    i dont want any problems man..

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    • Chuckguy
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      #22
      Nah Larry
      everyone is entitled to their opinion
      See like you say that about fighting smart and its not always entertaining
      that is how someone fights that wants to be undefeated and so be it
      but others go balls out and its more entertaining and a bigger risk

      Some are just willing to take it when others arent

      I do think the whole division is shyte though

      Lennox would beat all those fools
      I never apprecitated him cause of his ****** british accent but now that he is gone I see that he really was one bad mo fo

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      • LEFTYGUNZZ
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        #23
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I cannot wait to read your take on Lennox.
        Lennox did much of the same he found out what worked used his jab to set up other punches other punches besides a straight right hand...he actually threw more then two punches Bat...I wasn't the most found of Lennox but I gained respect for him the last few years of his career. I especially enjoyed his bout against Vitali....I had my criticsims of him yes he used his jab alot and he tied people up on the inside but he did exchange punches a hell of alot more then Wlad does..he also throw 3 and 4 punch combos upper cuts and left hooks....Lefty

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          #24


          Wlad should listen to this and learn that his fighting style while it is effective and he wins is quite boring for fans to watch....Lefty

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            #25
            Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ


            Wlad should listen to this and learn that his fighting style while it is effective and he wins is quite boring for fans to watch....Lefty
            Thanks for the RED K Tunney ....Lefty

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              #26
              Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
              Lennox did much of the same he found out what worked used his jab to set up other punches other punches besides a straight right hand...he actually threw more then two punches Bat...I wasn't the most found of Lennox but I gained respect for him the last few years of his career. I especially enjoyed his bout against Vitali....I had my criticsims of him yes he used his jab alot and he tied people up on the inside but he did exchange punches a hell of alot more then Wlad does..he also throw 3 and 4 punch combos upper cuts and left hooks....Lefty
              Wlad has an excellent hook also. Maybe that he uses the jab and right hand a lot in the Ibragimov and Chagaev fights, but if it works can you blame him? He might still be a bit worried about his chin which might be why he doesn't take the chances that you'd like him to take.

              You can pick just about any champion and find something that you don't like. Perhaps time makes the past seem much better than the present but you cannot name one HW champion who didn't fight snoozers.

              And for my money the Chagaev fight wasn't a snoozer. It was only thanks to Chagaev's granite chin that the fight went as long as it did. Wlad put on a clinic and barely set a foot wrong. I honestly think he should be included in the p4p list.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Wlad has an excellent hook also. Maybe that he uses the jab and right hand a lot in the Ibragimov and Chagaev fights, but if it works can you blame him? He might still be a bit worried about his chin which might be why he doesn't take the chances that you'd like him to take.

                You can pick just about any champion and find something that you don't like. Perhaps time makes the past seem much better than the present but you cannot name one HW champion who didn't fight snoozers.

                And for my money the Chagaev fight wasn't a snoozer. It was only thanks to Chagaev's granite chin that the fight went as long as it did. Wlad put on a clinic and barely set a foot wrong. I honestly think he should be included in the p4p list.
                If it is P4P most boring then yes he is #1.....Bat my beef is not that he never takes chances it is that he never really tried to put his opponents away even after everyone in the house including the announcers were calling for him to do it. he never threw one hook the entire fight I don;t have the punch stats in front of me but I don;t remember seeing one hook even after he had Chagev hurt. I DO NOT DISLIKE WLAD I thinkhe is a very intellegent man and a genuinely good guy. He is highly skilled but in my mind he has been tested and failed and what we got out of those tests is the fighter he is today very slow moving very calculated and exteremly boring......As for what Larry said in a prior post yes turning your weakness into stength undersandable but you cant turn a bad chin good if it gets tapped it will shatter again and he knows it. the reff allows him to hold in Germany and use his jab like a stiff arm as well which excessively are both illegal....Lefty

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                  #28
                  wlad is a highly skilled boxer but as everyone knows he has become extremely boring...and its clear in his fights that he is scared to take a shot..in his fight with tony thompson in the early rounds thompson was landing shots on wlad and getting over wlads jab..and wlad literally was spazzing out trying to clinch thompson..if thompson would of had more power i would put money on it that thompson would of KOed wladimir..thompson WAS one of americas good heavyweight boxers but he lacked power..thompson has alot of technical skill but fighters like arreola who lack technical skill but have alot of power will struggle against wladimir..we need a fighter who has a balanced skillset..we either have a boxer who hits hard but lacks technical skill (arreola) or we have a boxer who has technical skill but doesnt have much power..(thompson,chambers,byrd)

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                  • larry x
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                    #29
                    how can a boxer be ****ted on for losing???losers fall and stay down..but a champion falls and gets back up and takes back whatever they lost...isnt that why we love boxing???

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by larrysmith
                      how can a boxer be ****ted on for losing???losers fall and stay down..but a champion falls and gets back up and takes back whatever they lost...isnt that why we love boxing???
                      I love boxing for the drama in the ring the trials and tribulations the knock outs and the back and forth action...I love boxing because I did it for some time and I know it is hard and not everyone can do it. I love boxing because unlike team sports you don;t have someone to fall back on it is you and the other guy man to man 1 on 1...I love boxing because it is the only sport in the world where wo highly conditioned trained athletes compete for 36 minutes or until ne of them cannot get up....All those things are absent from Wlads fights...he is condtioned and trained but it is very rare you find a HW lie that that mathyces those criteras today....Lefty

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