Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

[Horus]

To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

[ACHlLLES]

You would commit suicide if Manny beat the **** out of Floyd, and proved you wrong. I think you take it all so seriously, like the fans of Michael Jackson who are committing suicide because he is dead.

[Horus]

You would commit suicide if Manny beat the **** out of Floyd, and proved you wrong. I think you take it all so seriously, like the fans of Michael Jackson who are committing suicide because he is dead.

What's Achilles

Can you answer this question:

Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

[Dan...]

Mayweather is the better all-round fighter.

Still, if Pacquiao keeps beating guys that should be fighting several divisions higher than him he will definately be remembered as the greater of the two.

[ACHlLLES]

Pacquiaos last three opponents couldn't even hit him, so its not like he is just some kind of slugger anymore. Pacquiao has the best footwork in the game right now but sometimes is off balance but that doesn't matter with his big tree trunk legs. Floyds defense is better because he keeps his gloves up more, but his footwork isn't better than Pacquiaos in my opinion. The fights a toss-up.

[gingeralbino]

i voted maywaether but if i read what u worte i would have said Pac to annoy u.
bar the last line all u did was insult one of the greatest fighters in recent years.

congratulations, your an *******.

[Horus]

Mayweather is the better all-round fighter.

Still, if Pacquiao keeps beating guys that should be fighting several divisions higher than him he will definately be remembered as the greater of the two.

You my dude, may be right.
but somewhere down the line Pacquiao has to fight a black fighter.
not being racist but styles make fights...and he has yet to fight a fighter like mosley or mayweather, ala slick, fast, counter punchers who will make you pay....So to even be consider the greatest on this era with fighters like mosley and Mayweather, around he has to be able to beat at least 1 great black fighter.

[ACHlLLES]

I like the way Pacquiao feints with his punches, he'll throw one and pull back and move to the side and counter his opponent. That was beautiful what he did to Hatton, and yes I know hatton is a one dimensional **** who just walks straight forward but still a beautiful punch.

[Horus]

Pacquiaos last three opponents couldn't even hit him, so its not like he is just some kind of slugger anymore. Pacquiao has the best footwork in the game right now but sometimes is off balance but that doesn't matter with his big tree trunk legs. Floyds defense is better because he keeps his gloves up more, but his footwork isn't better than Pacquiaos in my opinion. The fights a toss-up.

Manny Pacquiao is an exciting fighter. Hands down.

• But he is not a complete fighter.
• He is not a complete boxer
• He is not a technically sound boxer
• He still punches with his eyes close.

Manny Pacquiao is great at what he does.
which is throw alot of punches...and has great great foot work. tremendous lateral movement... And he showed the greatest amount of improvement in a fighter in a period of 5 years that i have ever seen.


But Manny Pacquiao fights in one rhythm.
Offensive!

Which is great for the sport.
But when you are comparing him to Mayweather.

• You are comparing him to a fighter who is a a complete boxer
• You are comparing him to a fighter technically sound
• You are comparing him to a fighter who fights with his eyes open.
  and so on....

One of the things that Makes floyd special is that he fights in 2 rhythms.

Two different overall rhythmic forms:

1. the rhythm of offensive motion
2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.

what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.


Pacquiao is no way near the better boxer or fighter than Mayweather.

Pacquiao is a fighter that is dangerous because he so explosive.
and powerful. Thats sums up Pacquiao strengths.

but lets not confuse Pacquiao's greatness as a fighter to Mayweather greatness as a fighter.

Pacquiao is #2.
remember the only reason Pacquiao number#1 p4p is because mayweather retired.

[halford_saints]

Floyd would beat Pac
But Pac is higher in an all time list