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Lennox Lewis and the KLITCHKO BROTHERS are top 3 heavyweights of all time
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lol funniest thread ive ever wasted my time to read. very entertaining. if you ever mention lewis with the top greats you should check yourself into a mental instatution
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Originally posted by Dan... View PostHoly ****.
Please do not tell me you think Valuev beats Ali!.
Terrible thread.Originally posted by The_Italian View Posttheres one thing to consider...
the weight limit of the heavyweights has changed as have the size of its fighters in the division.
it was rare to see a 6'7 250lb heavyweight in the 50's and 60's when some of the fighters you're referring to reigned supreme. so you have to take that into account.
Yea I did thats why they would get your ass destroyed EINSTEIN!
some "heavyweights" of the the 50's and 60's wouldnt be heavyweights if they were fighting today.
forget size.
i dont care what tournament you create ali, marciano, louis, frazier, etc. are all getting out of the first round.
bullsh.it it depends on who their matched up against, not one of those guys can beat IBEUCHI OR somebody like TUA, Ali might could beat TUA because he'll jab and run, marciano frazier louis flat footed style gets them knocked out early to mid rounds
you think some of these out-of-shape, hairy, fatf*ks could really outbox some of the greatest boxers of we've been blessed to see (whether it be live for some of the old timers out there or for most of us younger people; on replays)???
hey dumbie, these are HEAVYWEIGHTS, 'outboxing' isn't that important, do you have common sense? haven't you learned that yet with heavyweights?
you expect me to believe fat ass valuev would beat ali?
Ok how would ALI beat valuev? give me a scientifical explaination?
never. never never never.
fat ass valuev would work for ali nicely because he couldnt catch ali.
yeah; standing next to each other valuev would look towering and intimidating to most fans because of the size advantage for valuev (height and weight) but when you break down the skills and advantages other than size and power (generated by that size of a man...being 7ft and who knows how many lbs he is these days) all the advantages go to ali. that includes footspeed, handspeed, speed in general, defense, boxing ability, technique, defense, etc. ALL in ali's favor.
Ali's speed was overrated, people said he was fast because he ran around the ring, holyfield and tyson (small heavyweights) had faster hands. Ali had great defense? ali was very very hitable, he did have a good chin though. Leaning on the ropes holding isn't good defense!
so unless valuev just paints ali with a good one he never sees coming ali's winning the fight.
i mean was it really neccessary for me to point out these facts?
seems almost ******ed if you ask me that one would even consider this.
lewis is an ATG no question...vitali is a lot more hype than he is skill and wlad im not 100% sold on...i mean he is incredibly smart...disciplined and steamrolls majority of his opponents but until someone reallys tests him at HW i cant say for sure.
you don't have to be 'sold' on WLAD, the man jabs harder then most heavyweights throw straight right hands. he hits like a mac truck, those so called 'old time greats' has never felt the power of the likes of WLAD or Vitali. You act has if Wlad is new on the scene, did you just start watching boxing last year?
you would be taken more seriously if you thought lewis was the greatest hw of all time rather than including vitali...what a joke. he doesnt break the top 64 heavyweights of all time to even get in your makebelieve tournament so how does he make it to the top 3???haha.
If you think theirs 64 heavyweights who could beat this beast Vitali then you should just close your account and go BACK to the WWF site where you use to have an account. Who'll beat Vitali? floyd paterson and jack dempsey? lol, they wouldn't even beat a prime roy jones.
you didnt think about that one?
all time greats dont make me think vitali...i think marciano, ali, frazier, louis, dempsey, etc. etc. etc. (could go on forever) but it would take at least 100 hw before a current hw even popped into my head.
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Originally posted by venerablefist View Postwhy do you call ali feather fisted when he clearly was not he knockout some fighter and had more than enough to keep his opponents off of him ,feather fisted is calderno and Malignaggi
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Originally posted by venerablefist View Postwhy do you call ali feather fisted when he clearly was not he knockout some fighter and had more than enough to keep his opponents off of him ,feather fisted is calderno and MalignaggiOriginally posted by Lucky Charms View PostSonny Listion was far from popular yet people consider him an ATG.... BECAUSE HE IS!
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Originally posted by Oscar DeLaHoya View Postlol funniest thread ive ever wasted my time to read. very entertaining. if you ever mention lewis with the top greats you should check yourself into a mental instatution
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Originally posted by dino View Postyea whatever idiot, lewis was big, strong and intelligent in the ring. he beats anybody.
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