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Why was there no De La Hoya - Trinidad rematch?
I know there are some very old (fat, bald, and lonely) members out here that were in there 20's when DLH fought Trinidad. So what was the story 10 years ago? Why didn't the rematch happen?
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Bernard Hopkins. -
Money as usual from what i heard..Comment
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it would 've been good when both were still in their primes.....but felix did'nt want none i believe....Comment
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Bhop?? Money??? This fight would sell well, I mean it had everything, it had a controversial decision, two exciting fighters, two "great" nations and etc. I still dont understand the Bhop arguement why would any fighter step up 2 weightclasses to fight for less money?!?!Comment
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What happened was that tito had to take a lower split the first time then the second time tito said ill give u the rematch but i want an even split 50-50 and oscar never wanted to give it to him
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What do you mean step up 2 weight classes? Trinidad was ALREADY at 160 when he fought Bernard, Trinidad owned a belt at 160. Trinidad was heavily favored to win the middleweight tournament which was to set up a mega fight against Roy Jones. That's why he didn't rematch Oscar right away because his plan was to continue moving up in weight, become the undisputed middleweight champion of the world and fight Roy Jones, which would have sold tremendously well.
Then came along Bernard Hopkins who said, nope, KO'd trinidad and that was that. After the retirement the oscar rematch lost its luster. Trinidad wasn't unstoppable anymore and never wanted to get back down to 154 pounds and oscar was never willing to go up in weight.Comment
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then in 2006 there were talks for a rematch and tito wanted a 50 50 split again and oscar said no 70-30
Originally Published: September 29, 2006
Notebook: Golden Boy nixes Trinidad rematch
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Rafael By Dan Rafael
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De La Hoya differed with Trinidad on money and weight for a rematch. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
From the moment they left the ring following their 1999 mega-fight, boxing fans have clamored for a rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad, who won their welterweight unification bout on a highly controversial majority decision.
Although there has been on-and-off talk about a rematch for the past seven years -- especially because the fight generated a non-heavyweight record 1.4 million pay-per-view buys -- it has never gotten too serious, especially with De La Hoya having long layoffs and Trinidad retiring for 2½ years before launching a two-fight comeback in 2004.
Even though Trinidad retired again after he was schooled by Winky Wright in May 2005, the talk has persisted that the rematch could happen as a career finale for both stars.
De La Hoya (38-4, 30 KOs), who has won belts in six divisions, is planning what he claims will be his final fight in May 2007 and had decided that pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. was his only choice for an opponent.
Felix Trinidad
Trinidad
Then De La Hoya, 33, changed his mind recently and said he would be open to again facing Trinidad, 33, who, according to media reports in Puerto Rico, was training again and thinking about fighting.
However, making the rematch has always come down to pride, money and weight.
Trinidad (42-2, 35 KOs), a former three-division champion, took the short end of a 60-40 split the first time around against De La Hoya and always insisted that a rematch be fought under the same terms, but in his favor.
De La Hoya, the biggest non-heavyweight draw in boxing history, would never accept those terms, or anything close to them.
So finally, when Trinidad's father, Felix Sr., told Puerto Rican media recently that the Trinidad camp would budge and go 50-50 on a rematch, there appeared to be a glimmer of hope.
However, De La Hoya scoffed at the notion of splitting the money evenly and said he would do the fight 70-30 in his favor. He sees no reason to share the revenue evenly, not when he generated 925,000 pay-per-view buys in May by winning a junior middleweight belt against second-tier opponent Ricardo Mayorga. When Trinidad came out of retirement against Mayorga, the pay-per-view drew about half that figure.
There is also the issue of weight. De La Hoya, who didn't look good in his two middleweight fights, said he would not fight a rematch above 154 pounds. Trinidad, who has been a middleweight since moving up in 2001, said he would not go below 160 pounds.
Although Trinidad promoter Don King has been calling Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer regularly in an effort to get talks going in the right direction, De La Hoya said he's finally finished with Trinidad for good.
"I want to lay to rest the whole Trinidad situation," De La Hoya told ESPN.com from his home in Puerto Rico, which is within walking distance of Trinidad's home. "I am thinking that Trinidad's father came out once again after a couple of years to call me out, which has been happening since we last fought. Trinidad retires and then his father comes out of the woodwork eventually, saying I'm a chicken, I'm a coward. It's really bad because I think truly the father maybe ran out of money or something, so he figures he can get his son to fight me and make some more money.
"I'm saying this fight is never going to happen. Let's lay it to rest. I can't make 160, he can't make 154. I can only make 160 if I eat tamales. It can't happen. They're asking 50-50. It is a joke, it's ridiculous. If you think about it, even if we offer them a 70-30 split my way, it will still be the biggest purse he ever made. He might as well take it."
De La Hoya said he told Schaefer to ignore King's phone calls from now on.
"I gave specific instructions to Richard not to answer his calls anymore," De La Hoya said. "The train has left the station. They can call me a coward as much as they want, but the train has left. This fight will never happen."
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Mayweather
De La Hoya said he still plans to bow out in May and hopes to fight Mayweather, the son of De La Hoya's trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Mayweather Jr., however, needs to win a Nov. 4 fight against welterweight champ Carlos Baldomir to preserve the showdown with De La Hoya, a match that could challenge the pay-per-view record set by Trinidad-De La Hoya.
"Mayweather or that's it for me," De La Hoya said.
And if Mayweather loses to Baldomir?
"I can hang 'em up whenever I want," said De La Hoya, who has earned roughly $150 million in purses and now runs the successful Golden Boy Promotions. "I don't need another fight, put it that way. If Mayweather loses, I think that's it. My motivation is fighting the pound-for-pound champion. If he loses, then I think that's it for me."Comment
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