Was Bob Arum correct about GBP's fight selection for Victor Ortiz? Poll.

[DrewWoodside]

Do you think Bob Arum was correct in his following quote regarding Golden Boy's most recent fight selection for Victor Ortiz? I realize, it's hard to agree with a Promoter when they speak about fighters outside of their stable but attempt to be objective. Poll to follow. Please discuss. Here's the quote:

“Ortiz is a good fighter but you don't put Ortiz is in with an Argentine guy that nobody heard of, who is a good puncher, etc. You put him in with a Lamont Peterson. If Peterson wins, then you got somebody going. Now they got a frigging Argentine guy, who lost to [Andreas] Kotelnik, who is fighting Amir Khan and if he wins he is going to end up fighting Dmitriy Salita. So that's the level, you are not building anything,” Arum said.

[BetterCallSaul]

No.

26 fights into his career and he needed a test.

[DrewWoodside]

No.

26 fights into his career and he needed a test.

But don't you think that on some level, it's possible Ortiz' psyche may be forever ruined now? I personally think he can rebound from this and possibly become stronger. However, some of his post fight comments were a bit scary.

[Pullcounter]

arum is right, you aren't building anything.

[Chups]

Well at least now we know Ortiz should not be in the boxing business. "I can't get hurt like that....I'm young""I don't want to stutter when I get old"

[DrewWoodside]

arum is right, you aren't building anything.

I feel as though he's making a lot of sense when he says you aren't building anything.. However at the same time I do believe he needs a stern test. Atleast now we know that Ortiz has major issues with his defense. A few more fights like the Aranoutis bout and we'd be thinking the guy can just punch his way through anything.

[BOLLOCKS]

Well at least now we know Ortiz should not be in the boxing business. "I can't get hurt like that....I'm young""I don't want to stutter when I get old"

Agreed, Better now before he has a load of Xcaret like fans calling him vicious.

[BetterCallSaul]

But don't you think that on some level, it's possible Ortiz' psyche may be forever ruined now? I personally think he can rebound from this and possibly become stronger. However, some of his post fight comments were a bit scary.

Probably, but he still needed to be tested. You can't feed him weak opposition forever.

Khan suffered the same as Ortiz. Fought poor matchups for his first 15 or so fights, and when he finally fought a live opponent he didn't have the skills or experience to fight the way he needed to fight. Luckily he was earlier into his career than Ortiz, and has the heart and will to make the defensive changes to his game, to protect his weak chin. He is now fighting for a world title and looks much improved defensively. So Ortiz can definately make a comeback, but I don't know if he is as hungry or determined as Khan to make the changes he needs to be a success.

[DrewWoodside]

Probably, but he still needed to be tested. You can't feed him weak opposition forever.

Khan suffered the same as Ortiz. Fought poor matchups for his first 15 or so fights, and when he finally fought a live opponent he didn't have the skills or experience to fight the way he needed to fight. Luckily he was earlier into his career than Ortiz, and has the heart and will to make the defensive changes to his game, to protect his weak chin. He is now fighting for a world title and looks much improved defensively. So Ortiz can definately make a comeback, but I don't know if he is as hungry or determined as Khan to make the changes he needs to be a success.

How about if they had given him a fight with Malinaggi instead? An "Elite" level fighter with name recognition and a little ring savvy.. Someone with a tested chin who wouldn't just stand there and take power shots to the chin.

[BetterCallSaul]

How about if they had given him a fight with Malinaggi instead? An "Elite" level fighter with name recognition and a little ring savvy.. Someone with a tested chin who wouldn't just stand there and take power shots to the chin.

Yeah that's a better fight, but would that really teach Ortiz to fight defensively? A pillow fisted fighter who while skilled wouldn't make Ortiz blink. At least with this loss he realises that he can't fight the way he did on Saturday and be successful at the top. Golden Boy will get him a new trainer, and hopefully Ortiz can move forward.

To be fair, sometimes a loss is the best thing for a fighter.

Look at David Haye.