mosley is not better than cotto..cotto beat mosley

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  • Iceta
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    #81
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    In order for the fight to happen isn't that what Mosley has to agree to? Seriously, this is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read. You hate Cotto because he got more money than another fighter, in which Cotto wasn't even involved in.

    Other thing I'd like to mention, why does Cotto have to fight Mosley again? Whether he beat Mosley by close decision or KO the fact is that he still beat Mosley and shouldn't have to prove himself again. Also, Mosley didn't even want to fight Cotto, he's been itching to get at Paq since the Hatton fight but refuses to meet at a catch weight, which I have no problems with but if he needs to stop bitching if he can't get a fight because they don't want to come up that high. Also, if Cotto beats Paq does that mean Mosley and Cotto have to fight again? Cotto beats the P4P best in the world, wouldn't that make him best in his division?

    I agree though, there should be a rematch but there is a difference between Cotto and Mosley. Mosley barely squeks out a victory over Mayorga, even though it was a KO Mayorga is total **** and Mosley looked bad, yet it earns him a right to fight Margarito. Okay, I'm fine with that, yet, Cotto barely beats Clottey (by one point in my book) and he earns a fight against Paq, but that BS because he didn't beat Mosley enough? The fact is Cotto earned the Paq fight because he's fought everyone in his division, he's fought THE best and he's won with the exception of a tainted loss to Marg. If there is any rematch it should be Marg/Cotto II, not Mosley/Cotto II.

    Also lets face it, Mosley isn't a draw anymore, IDK if he ever was reallly, not Cotto, Paq, De La Hoya numbers anyway. Paq is looking for money fights over a challenging fight, that isn't to say that Cotto isn't one for Paq, but plain and simple he just pays more and thats why Mosley didn't get the fight. Mosley needs to face the facts that he isn't the money maker De La Hoya was and needs to put his pride/ego aside and fight people who are calling him out. Cotto accepted Clottey's challenge over big money why can't Mosley?
    Cotto will never be the recognized champ at 147 until he rematches Mosley, period. I know Mosley is partly to blame for it not happening by chasing Pacquiao, but I've never heard Cotto say that he was willing to rematch Shane Mosley in Vegas, despite the fact that Mosley claimed that a Cotto rematch was a step backward. And Cotto is the one who is fighting Pacquiao, not Mosley. In fact, Mosley said he would rematch Cotto as long as the fight is in Vegas. Cotto needs to step up to the plate. Mosley may not have the linear title, but he's got Cotto's old belt around his waist, and he earned it the honest way.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #82
      Originally posted by Iceta
      Cotto will never be the recognized champ at 147 until he rematches Mosley, period. I know Mosley is partly to blame for it not happening by chasing Pacquiao, but I've never heard Cotto say that he was willing to rematch Shane Mosley in Vegas, despite the fact that Mosley claimed that a Cotto rematch was a step backward. And Cotto is the one who is fighting Pacquiao, not Mosley. In fact, Mosley said he would rematch Cotto as long as the fight is in Vegas. Cotto needs to step up to the plate. Mosley may not have the linear title, but he's got Cotto's old belt around his waist, and he earned it the honest way.
      Why does Mosley need to have the fight in Vegas? Personally, it can be anywhere the hell they want it but Mosley is asking for a rematch against a man he lost to, then he wants to make the rules about where the fight is to be held? He is the one who agreed on where the first match was supposed to take place, and now people ***** that if it wasn't in New York it would have been the other way around? Seriously, where do you people come from? Then to add to it, you say Cotto is backing out of the fight or avoiding Mosley, are you serious? He won the fight by UD, by 2 points or so on each scorecard, it was a close fight but Mosley didn't win. Cotto beat the guy once and now he gets trashed because he has to do it again and instead he wants to move on with his career?

      Lets think about this, Cotto beats Mosley and moves on to Margarito. Cotto loses and takes some time off. Mosley barely beats a complete bum (Mayorga) and looks like garbage in the process and gets a fight against Marg. They catch Marg cheating, which as stated definitely had an affect on his mental state. He kills Margarito and decides to go after a Paq fight. During this time Cotto beats Jennings, never hears a word about a rematch from Mosley, as Mosley is going for a Paq fight. Cotto sets up a real challenge against Clottey, regarded as the best active WW in the division aside from Mosley, himself(Cotto) and Marg(suspended.) Mosley during the same time passes fights on Berto and Clottey (before the Cotto fight was signed.) After the fight Cotto gets a huge offer (I'm sure in the 10's of millions) from Paq and again didn't hear a word of a rematch from Mosley.

      Where exactly is Cotto ducking Mosley? Mosley completed passed on the chance at a rematch with Cotto and went for Paq. So Cotto, keep in mind not having heard a word from Mosley about a rematch, and a rematch in which the loser of the first fight wants to make all the rules, takes on the next best in his division which is something Mosley opted not to do. I also forgot to mention that Mosley went after Floyd who turned him down and for the same reason, Mosley isn't the draw that these other people are. So please, next time you say Cotto is ducking someone make sure 1. You know what you are talking about, Cotto has never ducked a single person, whoever is put in front of him he'll fight 2. In order to duck someone I thought you were have never supposed to fought in the first place 3. Make sure the first fight was SO close that Mosley should have put far more effort into getting it before a bigger offer was given to the man he wanted the rematch with.
      Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 06-29-2009, 10:50 PM.

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      • Iceta
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        #83
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        Why does Mosley need to have the fight in Vegas? Personally, it can be anywhere the hell they want it but Mosley is asking for a rematch against a man he lost to, then he wants to make the rules about where the fight is to be held? He is the one who agreed on where the first match was supposed to take place, and now people ***** that if it wasn't in New York it would have been the other way around? Seriously, where do you people come from? Then to add to it, you say Cotto is backing out of the fight or avoiding Mosley, are you serious? He won the fight by UD, by 2 points or so on each scorecard, it was a close fight but Mosley didn't win. Cotto beat the guy once and now he gets trashed because he has to do it again and instead he wants to move on with his career?

        Lets think about this, Cotto beats Mosley and moves on to Margarito. Cotto loses and takes some time off. Mosley barely beats a complete bum (Mayorga) and looks like garbage in the process and gets a fight against Marg. They catch Marg cheating, which as stated definitely had an affect on his mental state. He kills Margarito and decides to go after a Paq fight. During this time Cotto beats Jennings, never hears a word about a rematch from Mosley, as Mosley is going for a Paq fight. Cotto sets up a real challenge against Clottey, regarded as the best active WW in the division aside from Mosley, himself(Cotto) and Marg(suspended.) Mosley during the same time passes fights on Berto and Clottey (before the Cotto fight was signed.) After the fight Cotto gets a huge offer (I'm sure in the 10's of millions) from Paq and again didn't hear a word of a rematch from Mosley.

        Where exactly is Cotto ducking Mosley? Mosley completed passed on the chance at a rematch with Cotto and went for Paq. So Cotto, keep in mind not having heard a word from Mosley about a rematch, and a rematch in which the loser of the first fight wants to make all the rules, takes on the next best in his division which is something Mosley opted not to do. I also forgot to mention that Mosley went after Floyd who turned him down and for the same reason, Mosley isn't the draw that these other people are. So please, next time you say Cotto is ducking someone make sure 1. You know what you are talking about, Cotto has never ducked a single person, whoever is put in front of him he'll fight 2. In order to duck someone I thought you were have never supposed to fought in the first place 3. Make sure the first fight was SO close that Mosley should have put far more effort into getting it before a bigger offer was given to the man he wanted the rematch with.
        Jesus, I don't have time to read a f#cking novel. I never said Cotto is particularly ducking Mosley. He's just not going out of his way to get a fight with him and vice versa. If you read my post I said implied that I was holding both guys to the same standard by not fighting each other, even though I was harsher toward Cotto. Mosley is the future hall of famer. It's Cotto who for once in his career needs to become the man of a weight division. He let a fight with Paul Williams fall through his finger tips. Is he gonna let this one fall through too?

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        • Pullcounter
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          #84
          cotto needs to fight mosley in a rematch on neutral ground (ie. Vegas).

          if cotto wins another close fight in MSG it won't mean anything.

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