If Ortiz is a quitter so is Ray Robinson!

[rskumm21]

Ortiz is a quiter it's a fact. When you don't want to continue fighting you are quiting. You should know since those UFC guys do it everytime they tapout; But then again that's probably why you are defending Ortiz.

[Deja_Vous]

ortiz quit without being hurt that much

Ortiz was about to get laid out cold.

He couldn't see the right hands coming in.

[No Ceiling]

nah, ortiz's legs were wobbly since the first knock down in the 1st.

it looks like he didnt even get hurt that much when he was KD. he probably got really exhausted.

Ortiz was about to get laid out cold.

He couldn't see the right hands coming in.

it looks like he got intimidated by maidana's heart

[rskumm21]

It happens! George Forman pounded on Ali like what seemed forever and couldnt put him away and lost his championship. Then he came back in his 40's and won the Championship back. **** happens!

What the f**K???

[Pullcounter]

it looks like he didnt even get hurt that much when he was KD. he probably got really exhausted.

nah man, they were wobbly... even max or steward pointed that out clearly for the uninitiated.

[Slimey Limey]

The referee wasn't passing out? He had to be helped out of the ring and the arena.

Veteran referee Ruby Goldstein, who hadn't been hit by anybody, had to quit after the 10th round, victim of heat prostration. "My legs got numb and cold," he said. "My head started to swim."

I'm not against fighters quitting when they're losing. Pep did it, Langford did it, Liston did it, Tyson did it, these were some of the toughest men ever.

Robinson however was severely dehydrated and suffering from heat prostration due to the extreme conditions he was fighting under.

If he was simply putting on an act then so were the referee and many of the people in the crowd who had to be taken out of the arena. There was no reason for Robinson to quit a fight he was winning against a man who himself was tired and was not exactly a dangerous puncher.

It was Robinson's dream to win the light heavyweight title, you think he would throw all of that away because he was afraid of getting knocked out in the last two rounds against a non-puncher? You don't think being totally drained and exhausted had anything to do with it?

Be sensible for once.

The refere is an old man, not a fookin boxer. Of cource he wouldn't be as tough as 2 world class fighters(albeit one being a ****** quitter).

Why are you using this as an argument, and ignoring the fact that Maxim never quit in that fight? He was also suffering from heat, dehydration etc. Why did he not quit? Why did Gay Robinson quit instead of him?

Should I repeat this for you? Because I know you will ignore this like the little girly poster you are.

Why are you using this as an argument, and ignoring the fact that Maxim never quit in that fight? He was also suffering from heat, dehydration etc. Why did he not quit? Why did Gay Robinson quit instead of him?
There have been fighters who were in worse condition and didn't quit.

If Maxim would have done that instead of Gay Robinson, he would have forever been known as the man that quit against an old Robinson. Because everybody is brainwashed into giving this overrated quitter a free pass on everything, just like Joe Louis.

Now, get back to work. Show me what you got lad, do all the work to stay competitive with me.

[deuce_drop]

If you bumbeling ******s really think that Ortiz quit then Ray Robinson quit against Joey Maxim and Joe frasier quit against ali, and i could go on and on and on about this.

have you been pistol whipped one too many times!?!?!? this is ******ed and i know that you're probably butt hurt that ortiz had the fight taken out of him last night, but, seriously, there is a big difference in these fights, this ortiz fight doesn't even come into boxing existence when talking about ray robinson or fraiser.

all i have to say is that, ray robinson was fighting way out of his weight class, he almost died in the ring that night, it was so hot in the ring that the ref collapsed and they had to bring in another one to finish the fight, ronbinson had proven himself beyond a shadow of a doubt what he was all about and that he was the PEOPLES champ. ortiz is on his way up and already saying he's taken too much punishment!?!?! and shouldn't be taking that kind of punishment..............

face the fact that ortiz is human and dealt with his situation as an ATHLETE and not like a FIGHTER........


Ray Robinson was a FIGHTER.

Joe Fraiser was a FIGHTER.....

Victor Ortiz is an athlete, there is a big difference between an ATHLETE and a FIGHTER, and we saw what the difference was last night with victor ortiz's decision and body language.............

[rskumm21]

I agree Robinson QUIT. He was going to get KO'd by Maxim but put on a fine acting job to save himself.

Maxim was in the same situation as Quitter Ray Robinson, but he didn't put on an acting job to QUIT.

You can't label Robinson a quitter with all the wars he'd been through I think he had proven himself by that point. Ortiz hasn't gone through much adversity in the ring, and to quit at his point in his career may be pretty detrimental and says a lot about his toughness and what we might expect to see from him moving forward.

[deuce_drop]

The refere is an old man, not a fookin boxer. Of cource he wouldn't be as tough as 2 world class fighters(albeit one being a ****** quitter).

Why are you using this as an argument, and ignoring the fact that Maxim never quit in that fight? He was also suffering from heat, dehydration etc. Why did he not quit? Why did Gay Robinson quit instead of him?

Should I repeat this for you? Because I know you will ignore this like the little girly poster you are.

Why are you using this as an argument, and ignoring the fact that Maxim never quit in that fight? He was also suffering from heat, dehydration etc. Why did he not quit? Why did Gay Robinson quit instead of him?
There have been fighters who were in worse condition and didn't quit.

If Maxim would have done that instead of Gay Robinson, he would have forever been known as the man that quit against an old Robinson. Because everybody is brainwashed into giving this overrated quitter a free pass on everything, just like Joe Louis.

Now, get back to work. Show me what you got lad, do all the work to stay competitive with me.

you have to be rather obtuse to say that robinson was a quitter, when the guy had well over a 100 fights before fighting a bigger man in extreme conditions, not to forget that ray robinson was older and much more war torn............. your disrespect is sad to see, but i think sums up your ignorance of the facts in the grand scheme of things.....good luck to you.

[Slimey Limey]

you have to be rather obtuse to say that robinson was a quitter, when the guy had well over a 100 fights before fighting a bigger man in extreme conditions, not to forget that ray robinson was older and much more war torn............. your disrespect is sad to see, but i think sums up your ignorance of the facts in the grand scheme of things.....good luck to you.

Robinson being a quitter should only be brought up when guys who have a bias for old timers start running their mouths about who quit and who didn't.

It's a fact that people are too affraid to admit. You belong in that group. I do not need your luck. Keep it to yourself, I can tell you are a puny weak little lad.