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  • #71
    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
    Again how is the doctor stopping the fight an act of quitting by the fighter.

    And if you red K me mother***er i'll red k you right back!!
    Ortiz shoocked his head and said no, right after he got up, and he even said it in the interview,.

    "im Young and dont deerve to get beat up like that" Victor Ortiz!!!!!!!

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    • #72
      Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
      If you bumbeling ******s really think that Ortiz quit then Ray Robinson quit against Joey Maxim and Joe frasier quit against ali, and i could go on and on and on about this.
      Ray was winning his fight.

      You're a douche.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
        I guess the referee who nearly passed out and had to be replaced was just acting as well.

        Maxim deserves all the credit for being extremely tough and durable to last under the heat but this doesn't prove Robinson a quitter.

        Louis had been eating flush right hands for 12 rounds and was clearly out of it when the fight was stopped.

        You must have a very unique definition of quitting.
        The ref wasn't passing out. I think i'm gonna pass out from your old timers bias, it's quite disgusting do you know that mate?

        Yes Maxim showed what a quitter ISN'T. Salty Gay Robinson showed what a quitter was. You have this "SRR BEST EVER IN HISTORY OF MANKIND AND UNIVERSE AND GALAXY EVAR!!!111" imprinted in your brain so you cannot admit this.

        I have a better defenition of everything compared to you my friend.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
          you accused cotto of quitting, but cotto just won a fight against the #3 welter with a worse cut earlier in the fight

          are you saying cotto isn't a quitter?
          Easy cowboy! Cotto did quit, HE DID. When you go on a knee he quit and was smart for it! cause it prolly saved his career from the cheater Plasterio...

          It's not an ego thing but have you ever boxed... honestly. Do you know what it's liked to get buzzed or to be bleeding. It's a whole new world baby let me tell you that!

          This is just one of Ortiz's many great fights to come, he has talent and made a mistake. People do that ya know, I think it's called being human.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
            Wrong!!! First of all you are in no position to set any of those expectations because I am almost 100% certain that you yourself could never live up to them. Secondly boxing is first and foremost entertainment/sport it's not a life and death struggle and it shouldn't be. So many other sports have rigid restrictions on what athletes can't do after they get hurt and you don't see their fans calling them quitters. You never heard anyone call steve young a quitter after he retired from football after suffering 10 concussions in his career. So why is it different for boxing? Could it be that everyone (media, broadcasters, fans, and boxers themselves) has this dillusional ideal that a boxer should risk their life in order to be called a warrior? I'm more realistic in that boxing has and always will be just a game and nothing more. It isn't that important that a man has to risk his life and health to satisfy the ***ed up ideals of a fan.
            COSIGN BABY! who are these F.uckin joystick tottin jokes talking **** about real fighters as if it's the battle for middle earth Waa THE FUUUUCK is wrong with you peeons... all I gotta say is lace up a pair know what it's like look at the footage he was gassed he was hurt has was cut and bleeding people die doing this from brain hemorrhages!!!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Slimey Limey View Post
              The ref wasn't passing out. I think i'm gonna pass out from your old timers bias, it's quite disgusting do you know that mate?

              Yes Maxim showed what a quitter ISN'T. Salty Gay Robinson showed what a quitter was. You have this "SRR BEST EVER IN HISTORY OF MANKIND AND UNIVERSE AND GALAXY EVAR!!!111" imprinted in your brain so you cannot admit this.

              I have a better defenition of everything compared to you my friend.
              The referee wasn't passing out? He had to be helped out of the ring and the arena.

              Veteran referee Ruby Goldstein, who hadn't been hit by anybody, had to quit after the 10th round, victim of heat prostration. "My legs got numb and cold," he said. "My head started to swim."

              I'm not against fighters quitting when they're losing. Pep did it, Langford did it, Liston did it, Tyson did it, these were some of the toughest men ever.

              Robinson however was severely dehydrated and suffering from heat prostration due to the extreme conditions he was fighting under.

              If he was simply putting on an act then so were the referee and many of the people in the crowd who had to be taken out of the arena. There was no reason for Robinson to quit a fight he was winning against a man who himself was tired and was not exactly a dangerous puncher.

              It was Robinson's dream to win the light heavyweight title, you think he would throw all of that away because he was afraid of getting knocked out in the last two rounds against a non-puncher? You don't think being totally drained and exhausted had anything to do with it?

              Be sensible for once.

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              • #77
                ortiz quit without being hurt that much

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Naestro USA View Post
                  ortiz quit without being hurt that much
                  nah, ortiz's legs were wobbly since the first knock down in the 1st.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                    How is having a giant swollen gash on your eye and a doctor saying you can't fight anymore quitting?

                    I beleive the answer to both our questions is that neither fighter actually quit.
                    He stopped fighting and waved his hand at the ref. He even admit that he quit after the fight.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                      The referee wasn't passing out? He had to be helped out of the ring and the arena.

                      Veteran referee Ruby Goldstein, who hadn't been hit by anybody, had to quit after the 10th round, victim of heat prostration. "My legs got numb and cold," he said. "My head started to swim."

                      I'm not against fighters quitting when they're losing. Pep did it, Langford did it, Liston did it, Tyson did it, these were some of the toughest men ever.

                      Robinson however was severely dehydrated and suffering from heat prostration due to the extreme conditions he was fighting under.

                      If he was simply putting on an act then so were the referee and many of the people in the crowd who had to be taken out of the arena. There was no reason for Robinson to quit a fight he was winning against a man who himself was tired and was not exactly a dangerous puncher.

                      It was Robinson's dream to win the light heavyweight title, you think he would throw all of that away because he was afraid of getting knocked out in the last two rounds against a non-puncher? You don't think being totally drained and exhausted had anything to do with it?

                      Be sensible for once.
                      Why are you replying to that fool?

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