I applaud Victor Ortiz for quitting.

[andrew14]

It's about time someone came about and simply said "No, I just quit because I didn't want to end up like Ali, and a complete vegetable that can't even speak, just to please a bunch of ****ing ******* on the internet who have absolutely never stepped into the ring at such a high level and had to fight for money and yet have the temerity to call me *****! I would rather come back and fight properly and healthily another day and win."

I think he gave us a good fight and will surely be back, hopefully better than ever and with the mind set to now make sure he doesn't do what wankers like the majority of this board want him to do.

Get over yourselves you bunch of hypocritical ******. Every single one of you would ****e your pants in a second if faced with the prospect of some guy across the ring who has knocked out every single one of his opponents, and he wants to literally pulverize your face into moosh.

Oh, wait, that's right, you all just sit on your arses and play on your computer typing about a fighter who gives you entertainment as being a ***** for providing you with one of the best fights of the year so far! You ****ing bunch of wanking **** ******s. Damn, I'm sick of hearing pathetic little kids whine about a fighter quitting. How many of you have been smashed in the face over and over by a guy with serious power? None of you! Christ, Id like to take a bat to some of you losers calling him a quitter or a *****. Not a single one of you who call him that would even know what it's like to step into that ring and fight someone desperate to kick your head in. You all disgust me.

sugar ray robinson fought in degree that no boxer can do it again.

thats why sugar ray robinson is the best fighter of all time and not ALI.

all boxers can win and lose whether what/how situation is.

floyd will fight ortiz in a tune up fight and a money fight like pacquiao is doing

too. and lets enjoy boxing while it last for the both pac and money may.

they are taking bulk of money not fighting each other...

[sinmiedo]

Well said. I honestly believe that if anyone signs on a dotted line signs a death warrant. Any hard perfect placed punch can end ur career. I believe ruelas exited for doin such thing. Can't remember which ruelas brother was it.

[STRUGG]

Victor Ortiz..............................THE NEXT great floyd win.....................LOL

[puga]

so quitting is a virtue now?.......


i adimre ortiz becase of what he showed in his last fight ..but for quitting?....

[Pez]

What he said in the post fight interview bothers me more than him quitting. He "doesn't deserve to get beaten up like this"? I can respect the choice of looking after his health but to say that in a sport where you're going to get hit is nothing to applaud about. It was idiotic, really. Sorry, Victor, but you had your foot in your mouth with that one.

[PlayerKiller]

Good thread

[fitefanSHO]

quitting or no quitting....................Ortiz was a cherry pick by team mayweather...........

Ya, maybe the same way Terry Norris was "cherrypicked" by Ray Leonard...

[BennyST]

Roberto Duran is a quitter. So what. Sometimes it's a good decision to quit. Boxing is a sport that allows you to redeem yourself, which Victor has done. No one would seriously pick Maidana to beat Ortiz at 147, we all know Ortiz would finish him within 6 rds at 147.

I don't think people realise just how many of the greats of the game have quit. Whether they quit mentally or physically, it's the same thing. It's often how it's done or what is said that people have a whinge about, but, no matter what is said or how it's done they are still quitting.

Ray Robinson has quit.
Roberto Duran has quit.
Julio Cesar Chavez has quit.
Alexis Arguello has quit.
Mike Tyson has quit.
Aaron Pryor has quit.


Plus many, many, many more of the greatest. A lot of them, fighters who we genuinely take motivation from as those with the greatest of hearts and true warriors.

Today, Cotto has quit, Calderon has quit, Tszyu quit, Mosley tried to quit, Oscar quit, Rafael Marquez quit, Israel Vasquez quit, Erik Morales quit, Klitschko quit, Holyfield quit, Kessler has quit.....and it goes on and on and on.

It's their past and future actions that tell us what it really means though. Duran quit in a fight he wasn't hurt in and yet he is, without doubt and proven many times over, one of histories greatest fighters with the biggest heart and warrior mentality.

Maybe more people would have been happy if instead of fighting hard until deciding to stop himself, Ortiz has just stopped fighting and survived? Just ran away, held, made it a pathetic fight....?

I don't really applaud it and what he did at all. I would much rather him fight on and try to win. But, I'm not going call him a ***** because of it. I'm not a fan of his and I'm not defending him out of some fan honour or something. I'm also not going to say "Well, he's a boxer and you have to take punches to be a boxer"...because I do know that he's been knocked down and hurt many times, some of them very badly hurt, in his very short career already and we've all seen him get back up and win. He takes a lot of punches in all of his fights. In this one particular fight though he was obviously taking too much punishment and was in great pain and knew he couldn't win.

Nor am I going to say "Well, in order to be a champion there are going to be fighters who don't stay down for you" because that just means that he might not become a great champion. Who cares? There are millions of fighters who aren't great champions. If he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. Simple as that. Lots of fighters don't have it. Some do, some don't. I'm not going to **** on the ones that don't have it, and I'm going to enjoy the ones that do. If Ortiz keeps giving us the kind of fights he has so far though, he's doing better than most and I'd much prefer to watch him over someone like Malignaggi.

[Hitman932]

Plus many, many, many more of the greatest. A lot of them, fighters who we genuinely take motivation from as those with the greatest of hearts and true warriors.

Today, Cotto has quit, Calderon has quit, Tszyu quit, Mosley tried to quit, Oscar quit, Rafael Marquez quit, Israel Vasquez quit, Erik Morales quit, Klitschko quit, Holyfield quit, Kessler has quit.....and it goes on and on and on.

It's their past and future actions that tell us what it really means though. Duran quit in a fight he wasn't hurt in and yet he is, without doubt and proven many times over, one of histories greatest fighters with the biggest heart and warrior mentality.

Maybe more people would have been happy if instead of fighting hard until deciding to stop himself, Ortiz has just stopped fighting and survived? Just ran away, held, made it a pathetic fight....?

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I'm with you on this one Benny, especially when it came to Cotto I thought the backlash was ridiculous and downright pathetic.

Fact of the matter is they looked so bad at quitting because they never knew how and never thought for one second that they ever would.

There have been thousands of fighters who went down from a punch, who could have gotten up, but instead put on a good act, took their 10 count and collected their check.

If Cotto or Ortiz had hit the deck on a glancing blow and stayed there pretending to be unable to get up..... that would make them a quitter.

Instead they knew nothing better than to get to their feet, it was the instinct of a fighter, not a quitter.

In all walks of life people are best served knowing when they are beaten and accepting their losses and moving on.

A true quitter is someone who plans for quitting and knows how to do it without people being able to pin it on him.