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If the fight would have went on you never know brother thats all im saying.

I see what your saying. I think he just hit the wall and didn't want to dig deep to get over it.

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Im glad your not in the service..you would run like a bytch from some ragheads and then later claim you had to feed your ugly kids...and that makes you a man!

No.. I wouldn't join the services. I'm VERY much able to admit that it takes someone with a bit extra inside them to join the service. Something I doubt I have.

Try again. Jupiter Maximus. LMAO.

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You do Oscar Diaz was not taking near as many shots as Victor was and he has severe brain damage now,were you the one getting hit,no you were not.

Every boxer is capable of having that happen to them, and what Ortiz went through, although rough... was nowhere near what other fighters have gone through.

You make the decision to take that risk before you step through the ropes as a prizefighter... not during.

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What Arturo Gatti and Mickey Ward went through over the course of 10 rounds cannot even be compared to what Ortiz was asked to endure.

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What Arturo Gatti and Mickey Ward went through over the course of 10 rounds cannot even be compared to what Ortiz was asked to endure.

Lol, why bring up Gatti-Ward? We can't compare alot of **** to that.

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Every boxer is capable of having that happen to them, and what Ortiz went through, although rough... was nowhere near what other fighters have gone through.

You make the decision to take that risk before you step through the ropes as a prizefighter... not during.

To be fair though, wasn't Roy Jones always cautious in the ring due to the fact that he feared ending up like a fighter that was wheel-chair bound that he knew?

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I see what your saying. I think he just hit the wall and didn't want to dig deep to get over it.

And i respect your opinion,but personally i thought the ref should have stopped it not Victor or the docter.but that is just my opinion.

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Lol, why bring up Gatti-Ward? We can't compare alot of **** to that.

I am just saying, the difference of what they went through, and what Ortiz went through are levels apart.

They couldnt wait to get off the stool for another round, Ortiz couldnt wait to get out of the ring..

I am just pointing out the difference in having true heart.

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To be fair though, wasn't Roy Jones always cautious in the ring due to the fact that he feared ending up like a fighter that was wheel-chair bound that he knew?

Did you not just see him get his ass handed to him for 12 rounds, covered in blood, at 40 years old?

He asked the doctor not to stop the fight.



Anyways, I feel Ortiz deserves a second chance, but I do believe he gave up..

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What if Ortiz would have fought on and died in the ring,it happens guys i have seen it to many times,we dont need what happened to Levander Johnson or to Oscar Diaz to happen again,none of us can feel what was going on in Victors head, he has a family to support and i do not blame him one bit for putting them aead of his fans. any thoughts guys.

ur absolutely right. every1 should just stfu