Lopez has better workrate that Paul Williams?????

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The difference:

Paul Williams does it CONSISTENTLY

Lopez did it against once against.... Penalosa.

Well most of Williams' opponents have come right at him, like Margarito and Wright, most of the guys that go at Lopez get knocked out early, guys who can take his punches and stand in front of him like Penalosa will obviously showcase his workrate. I haven't seen the Lontchi fight but I have a general idea of how he fights, he utilizes movement which negates workrate somewhat. If Lopez fights a guy like Penalosa again, a guy who can take his punches without moving too much, you'll probably see a 100 punch per round output again.

Williams' output dropped significantly as well against a mover in Quintana, and he doesn't have knockout power like Lopez so his workrate will always be on show against guys who come to him.

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so lets reverse the situation....


lets say lopez fights a guy who moves more and boxes insted of trying to stand there and take his punches...it only logic that his punch stats will go down... but will they still be high?

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Williams' output dropped significantly as well against a mover in Quintana, and he doesn't have knockout power like Lopez so his workrate will always be on show against guys who come to him.

You mean the 2nd fight? Of course, it was ended in 1.

I agree with the knockout power but if you bring that in to the discussion you have to bring in the weight as well. Bantams are expected to throw a billion punches. WW, MW and up aren't expected to throw 1600-1800 punches a night or 150-200 punches a round.

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You mean the 2nd fight? Of course, it was ended in 1.

I agree with the knockout power but if you bring that in to the discussion you have to bring in the weight as well. Bantams are expected to throw a billion punches. WW, MW and up aren't expected to throw 1600-1800 punches a night or 150-200 punches a round.

No the first fight, Williams threw 800 punches that fight because of the movement of Quintana, movement neutralizes workrate, always does.

I doubt Williams has thrown that many punches, I don't think he's gone over 1300 which is still an incredibly high workrate. And no, it's not really the fact that he's a welterweight or a middleweight that makes his workrate unexpected, it's his body type, normally the tall lanky types have bad stamina because of their struggles to make weight but Williams' stamina is quite amazing.

I think the Bantamweight average is around 70 punches a round. None of the weight divisions have an average of 100.

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No the first fight, Williams threw 800 punches that fight because of the movement of Quintana, movement neutralizes workrate, always does.

I doubt Williams has thrown that many punches, I don't think he's gone over 1300 which is still an incredibly high workrate. And no, it's not really the fact that he's a welterweight or a middleweight that makes his workrate unexpected, it's his body type, normally the tall lanky types have bad stamina because of their struggles to make weight but Williams' stamina is quite amazing.

I think the Bantamweight average is around 70 punches a round. None of the weight divisions have an average of 100.

lol, i was just using hyperbole when talking numbers. Im too lazy to go dig around the net and find the real output numbers.

Anyways, Bantams are expected to throw alot of punches though. Williams on the other hand isn't. Even then, he does throw alot of punches consistently. When Juanma moves up we will see if he can keep that Pacquiao like work rate. Seeing how Arum expects him to be the next big thing out of puerto rico since Cotto.

I still think PWill has a better work rate. He breaks people's will with his work rate. Just like Calzaghe and Margarito.

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Better question is who has the more effective work rate?

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WELL..


flicker.. .so when do u think we are going to see clottey vs williams .. sept... nov... ??



tbh... both guys have tremendous work rate....

and cant really tell right now.... 1020 punches in round 9///

that was the penalosa fight......

and with a great accuracy....

.. right now... they both have prove that they are on another level..

i cant really tell....

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Better question is who has the more effective work rate?

Lol, again Paul Williams. His entire game is based on work rate. If you beat him in work rate, you win. He loss to Quintana because his work rate was less than Quintana.

Juanma will knock you out before his work rate comes into effect.

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flicker.. .so when do u think we are going to see clottey vs williams .. sept... nov... ??

The sooner the better IMO. I think realistically it would be late Sept or anywhere in Nov. May-JMM needs to sell, so I think promoters will try to make the fight happen at a later date.