good to see,i think collazo is an under-rated guy
Collazo - Berto II is on!
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berto needs to fight an elite aldy, 3 tile defenses and still no real test for him. collazo aint as good as ppl make him out to be.Comment
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It's fair that Collazo gets a rematch, but I'm not interested at all to be honest. It's high time that Berto stepped up and faced an elite fighter. I don't rate him that highly at the moment, but I want to find out exactly how good he is.Comment
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Lederman's card
see you both had it Luis winning, but "Coming Up Short" officially lost. And what does un-officially beating Berto count for anyway?
that whine fest (another old thread) which was posted on here by Collazo in letter form complaining to the WBC was the most pathetic thing ever. You can't fight the middle (5,6,7) and (11,12) last two rounds like Collazo did vs Berto and expect to win .... you can have him winning all you want, but a large reason he lost that fight is because he gave up rounds
so instead of saying "oh he really won" why not try to look at why he lost?
**and I saw the fight in clips again about a month ago, have to say, Harold Lederman seems very misguided
after the 12th round is over, he had Collazo winning 115-112, if you recall.
but where he loses some credibility IMO is Harold said "Luis won, and outworked Berto especially in rounds 6 and 7"
and the funny thing is that in those 2 rounds Collazo (according to compubox) got out thrown + outlanded .. and a pretty good case for Berto winning BOTH rounds could be made (although the 6th was a closer)
going by Lederman's card and giving Berto the rounds he was "outworked" it switched that 115-112 Collazo W to a 114-113 Berto W, a scorecard that 2 judges actually wound up with.
funny how that works ^
and regarding a rematch, doesn't really matter if it happens cool, if not Collazo will just come up short again vs Berto.
**unless if he goes for that IBF strap of course.Comment
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I thought it was a close, but very clear win for Berto. And I don't even like Berto. I can't really see the case for Collazo winning.
I think the next fight will be an even clearer win for Berto.Comment
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it was a good close fight no matter how u put it or who u had winning.
the point is that right after the fight both dibella and berto said that they would give collazo a rematch. hopefully they are making it happen.
that article doesn't say that its a official it says, that dibella made don king an offer and are waiting... and the offer is a lot less than the first fight due to the struggling economy.
so we got to really see if the fight is on or not....Comment
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oh im not denying that, I'll agree it was a close bout (as seen by the judges as well ... 2 of them at least)it was a good close fight no matter how u put it or who u had winning.
the point is that right after the fight both dibella and berto said that they would give collazo a rematch. hopefully they are making it happen.
that article doesn't say that its a official it says, that dibella made don king an offer and are waiting... and the offer is a lot less than the first fight due to the struggling economy.
so we got to really see if the fight is on or not....
and the fact that the first fight was entertaining will possibly help force the rematch happening.
and crappy economy aside I think it helps boxing just a tiny bit
as I've noticed a signifigantly less amount of PPV's this year outside of a Top Rank one with Cotto/Pavlik a Golden Boy one headlined by Valero and of course Pacquiao vs Hatton can't think of too many PPV events
which isn't all bad, because if fans have to pay $35 or up to see fights, fans lose, IMO.Comment
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I had Collazo winning by a point, I could see it either way, but regardless, Berto should rematch him before he can or should move on to more lucrative fights.Comment
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