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  • #51
    Originally posted by Makavelli View Post
    Kostya destroyed Zab faster than Miguel


    prime KT was beast at 140

    any one can get a lucky shot. they say that about cotto all the time hehe

    plus maybe zab had the same problems that plasterito with training prior to the night the fought mosley.

    hehehehe

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    • #52
      good point

      Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
      call me when cotto unifies all the belts in his division.

      or at the very least become ring champion in his division.
      good point.... im out... hehe

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Aracibo04 View Post
        You crak me up Mr. Pink...

        but the truth is since he has not faced any of them you can't say he is greater...

        do you think this logic would apply in reverse?

        Is he equal? Hell yea!
        no point in this thread.

        some floyd stan says hatton ducked cotto that's why.

        i don't think ricky ducked cotto.

        a guy that fights may , pac and kostya would not duck a cotto.

        kostya was king of his division for a long time. had all the belts including the lineal and ring titles.

        pac and may well they were pac and may.

        cotto is not on that level. cotto is good but nothing special.

        lopez will be the best puerto rican fighter of this era.

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        • #54
          Acting like Mayweather... Has any of those guys beaten me? NO NO I ASK, Has any of those guys won against me? TELL ME!

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
            no point in this thread.

            some floyd stan says hatton ducked cotto that's why.

            i don't think ricky ducked cotto.

            a guy that fights may , pac and kostya would not duck a cotto.

            kostya was king of his division for a long time. had all the belts including the lineal and ring titles.

            pac and may well they were pac and may.

            cotto is not on that level. cotto is good but nothing special.

            lopez will be the best puerto rican fighter of this era.
            Interstin,
            but I am not sold on juanma yet.. I like his potential, but when the hour of truth comes that he has to dig deep to get out of a bad situation is when I will say that he might be the best rican of this era.

            At this point in my opinon cotto has been in deep waters and has suvived.

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            • #56
              none, but hes close to being great as or greater than tszyu......

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Aracibo04 View Post
                Interstin,
                but I am not sold on juanma yet.. I like his potential, but when the hour of truth comes that he has to dig deep to get out of a bad situation is when I will say that he might be the best rican of this era.

                At this point in my opinon cotto has been in deep waters and has suvived.
                jump on the bandwagon.

                jml is the future.........

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                • #58
                  None yet. We'll see if he beats any of them by the time he finishes. I'm surprised at the Tszyu hate though. I think he's one of the most underrated fighters of the modern era. Sad.

                  As for people saying that Cotto could beat Tszyu at 140, that's just laughable. The Hatton version of Tszyu still beats Cotto pretty easily. He just gets hit too much, and that old version of Tszyu would always still beat you if you gave him time to get set and Cotto doesn't fight like that. He's too patient to beat Tszyu, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got knocked out. Difference between him, Torres and Corley is that if Tszyu hurts someone once they are finished. One of the great finishers of our time.

                  If anyone thinks he's better than any of these guys, you are seriously overrating Cotto, which is not unusual as everyone seems to be overrating him lately.

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                  • #59
                    Another thing I've noticed is that everyone praises Cotto for fighting guys that are at the top of his divisions and the other champions as if that's amazing. Maybe you have all forgotten but Tszyu quite literally did that for over a decade. He only ever fought the top ranked fighters and the champions.

                    Hence being the only 140 unified champion since Aaron Pryor. He fought his first former world champion in his forth fight and his first future world champ in his sixth fight!

                    As a young, very green titlist he destroyed a guy that moved up to LHW and fought Glen Johnson! He was an undefeated 27-0 fighter that absolutely towered over Tszyu who was 15-0 or something ridiculous. Saying that, he also faced his first undefeated fighter in his seventh fight.

                    Find someone else who starts out their career like that and never lets up with that type of competition.

                    Damn, the 34-4 Judah was Cotto's greatest opponent at the time he fought him only two years ago. Tszyu fought the undefeated, prime version over six years earlier that was already champion and became champion again, unifying the welterweight titles and people are still even trying to compare their careers? Zab Judah hadn't won a fight in his last three fights when he faced Cotto and was at his end. What about the 38-3 Oktay Urkal who was another of Cotto's best opponents? Again, Tszyu fought the prime undefeated, number one ranked version many, many years previously.
                    Last edited by BennyST; 06-25-2009, 11:32 PM.

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                    • #60
                      people forget kostya fought juan laporte in his 4th pro fight.

                      laporte might have been past it and certainly not a natural 140 guy but as someone's 4th pro fight?

                      that's a skilled , tough vet for someone just starting out.

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