Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II-Scorecard Analysis

[mikescfld]

Im a JJM fan too but according to computer box if you look it in an unbiased point of view:

Round 1 = Pac
Round 2= JMM
Round 3= Pac (10-8)
Round 4= Pac
Round 5= JMM
Round 6= JMM (though even in compu box, I will give it to JMM)
Round 7= Pac
Round 8= JMM
Round 9= Pac
Round 10= Pac
Round 11= JMM (can be either way though)
Round 12= JMM

114-113 for Pacquiao

Each has 6 rounds but clearly the knockdown makes the difference. At round 3 also it appears that JMM suffers a 2nd KD he avoid it by holding on to the rope but it should be consider KD per boxing rules which the refree missed.

A close but a Pacquaio win no doubt.

[aether]

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we wanna give marquez full credit of wat he did with 'the baddest motha of boxing'

losing and drawing officially?

should have gotten a gift?

going down 4 times in two fights?

lol. i love jmm to death but he's getting too much credit for "coming close" in beating pacquiao.. third fight to settle this ****.

[riannu]

W hat doyou guys think of awarding JMM with a 10-8 round in the 8th? It was very one-sided. I think there's a good case for it to be scored a 2 point round for Marquez, without a KD.


And when is the last time two real World Champs fought this close over two fights?

Ayala-Tapia?

I'm having a little difficulty coming up wit another quick example.

Then how abt making the 3rd round 10-7 for the uncalled KD before the bell rings? Rd. 8 Pac wasn't beaten from Pillar to post, Marquez was too tentative.It wasn't so one-sided as to merit a 10-8 rd.

[karrapato]

I had JMM winning 114-113.

HE also really dominated lightweight division. Pacquiao fought just David Diaz...

Oscar De La Hoya wasn't impressive and was an easy target.

Ricky Hatton style and gameplan was suicidal against Pacquiao.

He hasn't fought a real threat since JMM.


I really think Pacquiao is a great boxer, but in my opinion JMM is greater.

[silip03]

Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez Part 1 -Scorecard Analysis = missing link? dont bother to talk about the draw? or a win for packy?

[mikescfld]

I had JMM winning 114-113.

HE also really dominated lightweight division. Pacquiao fought just David Diaz...

Oscar De La Hoya wasn't impressive and was an easy target.

Ricky Hatton style and gameplan was suicidal against Pacquiao.

He hasn't fought a real threat since JMM.


I really think Pacquiao is a great boxer, but in my opinion JMM is greater.

JMM greater? are you on drugs?

Barrera and Eric Morales are greater than JMM even to the majority of mexican fans. But these two legends were demolished by Pcquiao like nothing.

Look at the resume of the 2 its not even worth comparing.

[emokillss]

i thought marquez won!!!! very contriversal



http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...=Fight:1239916

pacman ****riders: UD for pacman........lol

[mikescfld]

Then how abt making the 3rd round 10-7 for the uncalled KD before the bell rings? Rd. 8 Pac wasn't beaten from Pillar to post, Marquez was too tentative.It wasn't so one-sided as to merit a 10-8 rd.

Could you consider another point deduction on Marquez for walking on to the wrong corner? lol. Clearly the dude is in dreamland.

In a close fight like that only idiots will give the w to the one who flaunt his ass and walking unconcious.

[PittyPat]

The first fight I had 115-110 for Marquez on a second viewing. There is no way I could ever give that one to Pac again.

Their rematch, however, on a second viewing I had it like this...

P || 10 | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  | 10 | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  || 114
M || 9  | 10 | 8  | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 10 | 9  | 9  | 10 | 10 || 113

Pac had noticeably improved for this fight, and didn't get caught as much with flush shots (but still did get caught in parts). Marquez wasn't as sharp with the counterpunching this time, and had slowed. Very back-and-forth fight.

[mikescfld]

The first fight I had 115-110 for Marquez on a second viewing. There is no way I could ever give that one to Pac again.

Their rematch, however, on a second viewing I had it like this...

P || 10 | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  | 10 | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 9  || 114
M || 9  | 10 | 8  | 9  | 10 | 10 | 9  | 10 | 9  | 9  | 10 | 10 || 113

Pac had noticeably improved for this fight, and didn't get caught as much with flush shots (but still did get caught in parts). Marquez wasn't as sharp with the counterpunching this time, and had slowed. Very back-and-forth fight.

youre score on the 2nd fight are the same on the unbiased computer box scoring won clearly by Pac.

On the first fight though I have it Pac winning by 113 to 112 due to 10-6 scoring on the first round which one of the judges admit his mistake.