1b difference Vs Manny when Cotto fought Clottey

[Technical_Skill]

pretty much, If he wanted to drain Cotto, he wouldve forced him at 140. But what you dont understand is he met him in the middle, not even, at 145.

One more time.

He cant drain cotto at 140, cos cotto isnt fighting at 140 and wont fight at 140, thats why he wouldnt even go there. You cant drain a fighter if he is refusing to fight.

Then it was 143, cotto didnt want to

Now its 145.

Manny is not a natural welterweight, but he fought oscar at 147 so why cant he fight cotto at 147?

Cotto cannot physically make 140 without being kentucky fried like oscar, we know manny can make 147 for two reasons.

1) He already has, against oscar

2) He weighed 148 on fight night against hatton.

[rob6465]

As everyone knows, Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. Against Manny he'll weigh in 1lb less, while Manny will likely weigh in around 142 at the weigh in.

Will alot of you still cry weight drain or an unfair fight for Cotto? Why doesnt anyone see Manny's disadvantage of fighting a much bigger fighter. Fight night, we know Cotto will weigh in around 156+, while Manny will be at 149 tops. And alot of you still want Manny to move up to 147 at the weigh in. I dont understand it, why would Cotto be the victim at 145.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Cotto is the bigger fighter and Manny is disadvantaged stepping in against someone alot bigger. The weigh drained myth is over exaggerated, especially over 1-2lbs.


To make things fair, Manny would feel comfortable with a 147 weigh in at fight night. Cotto would probably get killed if he weighted in at 147 right before he stepped in the ring, but 147 is the welterweight limit. would a 147 fight night weigh in be fair?

What bothers me is Roach wanting fight in october so Cotto does not have more time to heal cut, that is a disadvantage.

[shogunn]

One more time.

He cant drain cotto at 140, cos cotto isnt fighting at 140 and wont fight at 140, thats why he wouldnt even go there. You cant drain a fighter if he is refusing to fight.

Then it was 143, cotto didnt want to

Now its 145.

Manny is not a natural welterweight, but he fought oscar at 147 so why cant he fight cotto at 147?

Cotto cannot physically make 140 without being kentucky fried like oscar, we know manny can make 147 for two reasons.

1) He already has, against oscar

2) He weighed 148 on fight night against hatton.

Haha, why dont you mention the fact that Cotto will be outweighing Manny by at least 8lbs?

1) He fought weighing in 142 weigh in, 148 fight night. Cotto will not be 148 fight not, likely 156+

2) no ****, he weighed in at 139 the day before, Hatton was 150 fight night. Again, Cotto is no where near 147 during the fight.

3) he's not a natural welterweight. If Manny once fought at 147 before, you have to point out that Cotto has also fought at 140 before. Meet in the middle, but Cotto is still at 145.

4) If Manny can come in at 147, Cotto should fight Paul Williams at 154. That would be the equivalent, maybe even Benard Hopkins since he can make the weight.

[shade darkar]

As everyone knows, Cotto weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. Against Manny he'll weigh in 1lb less, while Manny will likely weigh in around 142 at the weigh in.

Will alot of you still cry weight drain or an unfair fight for Cotto? Why doesnt anyone see Manny's disadvantage of fighting a much bigger fighter. Fight night, we know Cotto will weigh in around 156+, while Manny will be at 149 tops. And alot of you still want Manny to move up to 147 at the weigh in. I dont understand it, why would Cotto be the victim at 145.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Cotto is the bigger fighter and Manny is disadvantaged stepping in against someone alot bigger. The weigh drained myth is over exaggerated, especially over 1-2lbs.


To make things fair, Manny would feel comfortable with a 147 weigh in at fight night. Cotto would probably get killed if he weighted in at 147 right before he stepped in the ring, but 147 is the welterweight limit. would a 147 fight night weigh in be fair?

i dont see the big deal. if pac wants cotto, he knows what division he fights in. and vice versa. this fight should be at 147 for cottos belt or 140 for pacs. simple as that. i think catchweights are a load of bollox when the difference between a division is 7lb. ****in hell i could **** 7lb. whats the big deal!

[Technical_Skill]

Haha, why dont you mention the fact that Cotto will be outweighing Manny by at least 8lbs?

1) He fought weighing in 142 weigh in, 148 fight night. Cotto will not be 148 fight not, likely 156+

2) no ****, he weighed in at 139 the day before, Hatton was 150 fight night. Again, Cotto is no where near 147 during the fight.

3) he's not a natural welterweight. If Manny once fought at 147 before, you have to point out that Cotto has also fought at 140 before. Meet in the middle, but Cotto is still at 145.

4) If Manny can come in at 147, Cotto should fight Paul Williams at 154. That would be the equivalent, maybe even Benard Hopkins since he can make the weight.

Right, so you tell me,

What or how the f.uck is cotto weighing two pounds less on fight night change any of the above?

If manny has such a problem fighting at 147, why did he fight oscar there?

If getting cotto down to 143 then 145 isnt about trying to drain him, what the. f.uck is it about then?

[shogunn]

Right, so you tell me,

What or how the f.uck is cotto weighing two pounds less on fight night change any of the above?

If manny has such a problem fighting at 147, why did he fight oscar there?

If getting cotto down to 143 then 145 isnt about trying to drain him, what the. f.uck is it about then?

I think we went over this about a million times. Maybe someone with better reading comprehension skills could explain it to you. Just re-read the past 6pages.

[Technical_Skill]

I think we went over this about a million times. Just re-read the past 7 pages.

Exactly.

IT

MAKES

NO DIFFERENCE

COTTO

WILL

OUTWEIGH

MANNY

ON

FIGHT

NIGHT

HEAVILY

WETHER

HE

WEIGHS

IN

AT

145

OR

147.

Therefore, since manny weighed 148 in his last fight, and was at welter before that, he could fight at 147 again against cotto.

[deevel79]

If any Cotto fan is complaining about Cotto coming in 1lb lighter than he usually comes in, please STFU! I'm a huge Cotto fan, but this is getting rediculous now! If anything, its Pacman who's taking the bigger risk by entering the ring with a man who will be about 158 come fight time.

Now had Cotto had to make 143, I can understand, but its only 1lb. Stop crying like little bitches!

[Technical_Skill]

If any Cotto fan is complaining about Cotto coming in 1lb lighter than he usually comes in, please STFU! I'm a huge Cotto fan, but this is getting rediculous now! If anything, its Pacman who's taking the bigger risk by entering the ring with a man who will be about 158 come fight time.

The point being made is, the 1 pound difference makes no difference to Pacquaio, cotto is gonna outweigh him on fight night regardless, so whats the point?

[shogunn]

Exactly.

IT

MAKES

NO DIFFERENCE

COTTO

WILL

OUTWEIGH

MANNY

ON

FIGHT

NIGHT

HEAVILY

WETHER

HE

WEIGHS

IN

AT

145

OR

147.

Therefore, since manny weighed 148 in his last fight, and was at welter before that, he could fight at 147 again against cotto.

heh..Manny weighed in at 148 his last fight, DURING FIGHT NIGHT.

The day BEFORE, he weighed in at 140, which was JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT.

This is what happens in boxing. There's a weigh in, the day BEFORE the fight. Boxers replenish and gain weight. Normally about 8+lbs.

So, true, Manny came in at 148 during the fight, but made 140 the day BEFORE to make it a JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT bout



What you failed to mention. Cotto weighed in at his WELTERWEIGHT fight with clottey at 146. the day BEFORE the fight.

During the fight, it was never said, we're guessing was around 156-160 But in past fights, it was noted that Cotto replenishes around 160+. This is boxers taking advantage of their weight classes. Why Im explaining this to someone who supposedly knows something about boxing is confusing me.



so, to break it down. Manny will come in around 148 during the fight, the SAME he weighed in as a JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT during FIGHT NIGHT. Cotto, on the other hand, although weighing in at 145 the day BEFORE the fight, will come in at possibly 160+ at FIGHT NIGHT

now, Manny at 148 vs Cotto at 160, we know who has the advantage.

if you want to argue that Manny came in before at 147 vs ODLH, we must remind all the idiots that he weighed in at 148 during the fight. It was a once time deal, as he went back down to fight Hatton. Again, since people have trouble reading and understand simple concepts, Let me re-iterate that Cotto will weigh over that, likely at 156+