1b difference Vs Manny when Cotto fought Clottey

[Technical_Skill]

his come in over 160+ before cant remember which fight. whether it stops him from blowing up or not is anyone's guess but if he wants to make a healthy 145lb weight limit then he should be hovering around 153-155lb a week before the fight which means if he rehydrate in fight night it should be around 156-158 and not around 160+. this isn't a guarantee but you dont give a fighter the benefit of an extra 2lb to almost guarantee that he will blow up to 160+.

cotto isn't looking to be light on his feet against pac, his looking for power and size to push pac against the ropes and wear him down or KO him.

Okay, my thought is, the 2 pound wont make a difference in terms of the fight night weight and that cotto will rehydrate to 158-160 regardless.

No?

[Technical_Skill]

Okay, my thought is, the 2 pound wont make a difference in terms of the fight night weight and that cotto will rehydrate to 158-160 regardless.

No?

Ahh just seen you say you think he it will affect his fight night weight by one or two pounds.

[shogunn]

Manny moved from 135-147, Oscar had to kill himself to make a weight he hadnt made in many years.

At the 147 pound weight limit, manny did not have to weigh in at 147, he could have weighed in at 112, it doesnt matter, thats why its called a weight limit. Therefore meaning a fighter doesnt have to kill himself to gain weight, it just means he cant weigh anymore than 147.

Notice how floyd mayweather came in at about 148-150 for a junior middleweight contest, he didnt kill himself did he?

Its not the same as a figher who comes in a 160 and over during fightnight killing himself and going on drip to make a weight he hasnt been down to in years.

so youre telling us that ODLH shouldve stayed at 154 while Manny at most came in at welter weight? that wouldve been an even bigger joke. And waht I said was, Manny fought at 130 that year, which was true. Meaning 130 - 154 wouldve been a huge jump in 7 months, also would be unfair. Again, why this isnt obvious is beyond me.

Alot of people here forgot that Manny was a huge underdog and wasnt given a chance. It was ODLH that called Manny out, and it was his fault he got destroyed. It wasnt fair to Manny to baloon up that much. He went back down to fight Hatton with no problem. Dont blame Manny for doing what he had to do.

[shogunn]

Ahh just seen you say you think he it will affect his fight night weight by one or two pounds.

did you just quote and respond to yourself.....??????

[Technical_Skill]

so youre telling us that ODLH shouldve stayed at 154 while Manny at most came in at welter weight? that wouldve been an even bigger joke. And waht I said was, Manny fought at 130 that year, which was true. Meaning 130 - 154 wouldve been a huge jump in 7 months, also would be unfair. Again, why this isnt obvious is beyond me.

Alot of people here forgot that Manny was a huge underdog and wasnt given a chance. It was ODLH that called Manny out, and it was his fault he got destroyed. Dont blame Manny for doing what he had to do.

Before you get your manny pom poms out, Im just telling you the following.

It was a ****** fight, oscar was clearly shot and killed himself trying to make weight.

[Technical_Skill]

Speaking of the oscar fight, wonder if there are any similarities here to the cotto fight

1) Both Left handers converted to orthodox

2) Both Possibly on the decline (oscar for sure)

3) Both Possibly having to drain to fight manny.

That one should wind up the pac boys.

[shogunn]

Speaking of the oscar fight, wonder if there are any similarities here to the cotto fight

1) Both Left handers converted to orthodox

2) Both Possibly on the decline (oscar for sure)

3) Both Possibly having to drain to fight manny.

That one should wind up the pac boys.

haha..ok, One of those guys, clearly Manny hater. Cant win an arguement so you resort to this.

[Technical_Skill]

haha..ok, One of those guys, clearly Manny hater. Cant win an arguement so you resort to this.

what arguement?

The one where you thought cotto weighing in at 145 was gonna prevent him outweighing manny significantly on fight night?



Its pointless really, manny already fought oscar at 147, he can fight cotto at 147, 145 isnt gonna stop cotto re-hydrating more to weight alot more than him.

But as you said, roach isnt trying to drain cotto right? he's just holding out for 145 cos that's the number for his favorite sweet and sour dish at the local chinese.

[shogunn]

what arguement?

The one where you thought cotto weighing in at 145 was gonna prevent him outweighing manny significantly on fight night?



Its pointless really, manny already fought oscar at 147, he can fight cotto at 147, 145 isnt gonna stop cotto re-hydrating more to weight alot more than him.

But as you said, roach isnt trying to drain cotto right? he's just holding out for 145 cos that's the number for his favorite sweet and sour dish at the local chinese.

pretty much, If he wanted to drain Cotto, he wouldve forced him at 140. But what you dont understand is he met him in the middle, not even, at 145.

Again, why should Manny move up to 147 and Cotto just stay the same. He's a bigger fighter and Manny is not a natural welterweight. Manny fought in at 147 once, and weighed in at 142 at the weigh in, JUST to meet ODLH somewhere in the middle, for a FAIR fight. By that logic, Cotto did fight at 140 before right? just like Manny at 147? Maybe Cotto should go to 140 so you can be happy and call Roach the devil.


Cotto is going to outweigh Manny 10+lbs during the fight night. how is roach being evil on this? cotto still has the advantage.

btw, nice adding emoticons...it makes your point that much clearer.

[oc9979]

Because Manny is coming from a lower weight division and is already moving up 5lbs, while Cotto is moving down only 2. So By that logic, if Manny should just make 147, then Cotto should eaasily just move down to 140 since it isnt a big deal.

Normally the bigger fighter shouldnt have the advantage but this is NSB. Cotto wll weigh more than Manny by at least 8lbs during fight night.

just because the fight has been agree to 145 doesnt mean manny has to come at 145 he could come at 141. plus the fight will be for the welterweight belt