Abraham Says Pavlik is Avoiding Him, Making Excuses

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  • steptwome
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    #21
    Originally posted by DrewWoodside
    Abraham beats Miranda. A guy who if you saw his last fight you can't imagine him winning. Suddenly he's a big deal? I agree Pavlik should fight him at some point. But to be fair, Abraham is getting a ****load of free passes.
    ........................lol

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    • TredKiller
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      #22
      i wanted to see this, niether is that good,
      but together they'd make fireworks!!!

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      • Boxing Scene
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        #23
        Abraham is going to knock Pavlik the **** out, bottom line. Pavlik is happier fighting old men, nobodies, and smaller people.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #24
          Let's see how Arum/Pavlik responds to this outburst that has them looking like ducks.

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          • Clegg
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            #25
            Just for clarification, how do you guys decide who is ducking who?

            It seems to be based upon which one of them talks the most, because I don't recall either of them having made the other any concrete offers?

            I dislike Arum as much as the rest of you, and I agree that he should've tried to set this fight up long ago. However...

            1) Pavlik has fought better opposition. Oral Sex? Lujan Simon? Come on, these guys might as well have been plucked from the crowd.
            2) HBO were in favour of Pavlik-Abraham in 2008, but AA needed to make a mandatory defence. Abraham should've paid the guy step-aside money or at least tried to do something to push for a Pavlik fight.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #26
              Originally posted by Clegg
              Just for clarification, how do you guys decide who is ducking who?

              It seems to be based upon which one of them talks the most, because I don't recall either of them having made the other any concrete offers?

              I dislike Arum as much as the rest of you, and I agree that he should've tried to set this fight up long ago. However...

              1) Pavlik has fought better opposition. Oral Sex? Lujan Simon? Come on, these guys might as well have been plucked from the crowd.
              2) HBO were in favour of Pavlik-Abraham in 2008, but AA needed to make a mandatory defence. Abraham should've paid the guy step-aside money or at least tried to do something to push for a Pavlik fight.
              Great sig pic man. Love the movie, I'm not blind to all that big brother shi_t! I know what they doing!!!

              I believe that Abraham is more likely to be the duckee than the ducker. I have seen a number of conversations with Arum and he doesn't even mention Abraham. Talking about Sturm, mandatories and even worse was when he was talking about John Duddy. It's pretty obvious when Bend over Bob is ducking a fight.

              Also, Abraham has been coming to fight here to make a name in the states in order to sell the fight.

              All signs point to Arum.

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              • Tobi.G
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                #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Let's see how Arum/Pavlik responds to this outburst that has them looking like ducks.
                I guess they will say its the other way around and say Abraham is running away into another weight class to avoid Pavlik. Team Sturm will say the same thing. But at 168 it will be iteresting to see if Abraham can win a title at 168, there are bigger fishes there. Abraham can really prove himself there.

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                • Jone2ts
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                  #28
                  Somethings wrong with Pavlik i think. They canceled a fight with a guy from The Contender after Arum claimed Pavlik had a staph infection and then Pavlik outright denies the injury and then signs up with Arum again and shuts up and yet is not fighting anyone. I just have the feeling something isn't right with the guy mentally or physically at this point. I don't know that but what I do know is that Pavlik is a well liked fighter and can get ratings on HBO or PPV and him being inactive tells me somethings wrong.

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                  • dblaze9
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                    #29
                    I hate to say it but Pavlik will get his ass KICKED by Abraham any day of the week. Arum is a smart guy because he won't let his best fighters get into any danger! Cotto is an easy fight for pacman...he is now damaged goods and past his prime, and so is Pavlik!

                    I say put paul williams up against Pacman, Cotto, or Pavlik and he will kick all of their asses!!!!

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                    • Iceta
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                      #30
                      I've directed negative criticism toward Abraham for fighting the opponents he has lately, but I am consistent about giving him credit where credit is due. He obviously wants a fight against Pavlik and his call outs go unanswered on top of the fact that Kelly won't man up. Why doesn't Pavlik just admit he doesn't want the fight? And I will get off of Arthur's case about his opposition if he does in fact do what he is talking about. And that is move up to 168 and fight the elite fighters there. I admit that a lot of the guys he's fought isn't his fault because Middleweight is horrible outside of him, Williams, and Pavlik.

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