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  • Sparked_1985
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    #21
    Originally posted by phallusy
    and teh Hep B




    yes, after the first few jabs their balls disappear

    Is Hepatitis B the one you can get from eating **** or something covered in ****, or is that hepatitis A?

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    • Machine Gunz
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dan...
      What about the fact that Haye is easy to hit and he gets rocked by guys with about 10% as much power as Wladimir?
      Haye was pretty much careless early in his career, i don't care who you are, if you take flush shot on the chin you will go down, even Wlad has been stopped by a guy like Purrity who has lost to guys with only 5 pro fights in his career,

      Mormeck is a hard puncher, no doubt about that,

      You think Haye would be in front of Wlad to take the jab all night like Wlad's previous opponents?

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      • Klitschko2011
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        #23
        Originally posted by Machine Gunz
        i honestly believe Haye would beat Wlad by stoppage,

        Haye has the perfect style to stop Wlad - very fast hands, genuine power, good head movement fast on his fight, and he is just as athletic as Wlad

        when was the last time Wlad fought a guy with an explosive, pressuring style? Corrie Sanders, and Sanders stopped him

        Haye also throws every punch in the book, and would go after Wlad and take him out of his comfort zone of dictating a fight with his jab and straight right watch Wlad early on his career, he would throw hooks, uppercuts etc now he hasn't got the courage to take a gamble on throwing those risky punches,

        Haye will work out Wlads jab and stop him cold
        Haye has the weakest chin in the heavyweight division. He has been dropped and badly hurt by super middleweights and was KTFO in 5 rounds by a shot 41 year old light heavyweight who had been KTFO 5 times coming into the fight.

        Haye's left hand is too low and he is susceptible to RIGHT HANDS, he is an easy target.

        Wlad would KO the glass chinned Haye with the first punch he lands.

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        • Dan...
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          #24
          Originally posted by Machine Gunz
          Haye was pretty much careless early in his career, i don't care who you are, if you take flush shot on the chin you will go down, even Wlad has been stopped by a guy like Purrity who has lost to guys with only 5 pro fights in his career,

          Mormeck is a hard puncher, no doubt about that,

          You think Haye would be in front of Wlad to take the jab all night like Wlad's previous opponents?
          Yes. Haye is easy to hit. That isn't going to change now he is at Heavyweight. His defensive skills are limited and he has a weak chin.

          Not exactly a great combination when you are going up against one of the hardest punchers around.

          I think Wlad most probably takes Haye out very early. There is a remote possibility that Haye lands a big shot and the reverse happens, but most likley Wlad will stop him inside 6 rounds.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dan...
            Yes. Haye is easy to hit. That isn't going to change now he is at Heavyweight. His defensive skills are limited and he has a weak chin.

            Not exactly a great combination when you are going up against one of the hardest punchers around.

            I think Wlad most probably takes Haye out very early. There is a remote possibility that Haye lands a big shot and the reverse happens, but most likley Wlad will stop him inside 6 rounds.
            the fight would be more entertaining than wlads whole career,however long it lasted

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              #26
              Originally posted by british_fan
              the fight would be more entertaining than wlads whole career,however long it lasted
              It would be entertaining I'm sure.

              I'm not trying to hate on Haye, I like him and he is exciting for the division. I jsut don't really see him going close to beating Wladimir.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Klitschko2009
                Haye has the weakest chin in the heavyweight division. He has been dropped and badly hurt by super middleweights and was KTFO in 5 rounds by a shot 41 year old light heavyweight who had been KTFO 5 times coming into the fight.

                Haye's left hand is too low and he is susceptible to RIGHT HANDS, he is an easy target.

                Wlad would KO the glass chinned Haye with the first punch he lands.

                against Mock he suffered a flash kd, Haye went on to stop Mock,

                against Thompson he came out guns blazing and hit Thomson with punch in the book, Haye didn't pace himself and was going for an early impressive KO (something Wlads hasn't the courage to do) against a former world champ, by what, round 4-5 he was gassed out severely and has nothing left in his tank which was his own fault, a Thompson punch didn't cause Haye to be out on his feet, it was his own wrongdoing,

                all Thompson had to do was land a couple of combo's on Haye to force the ref to stop it, Thompson didn't ktfo Haye

                against Mormeck he took a flush hook on the chin, took a knee, and went on to stop Mormeck

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                • Klitschko2011
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                  #28
                  Who has Haye beat?

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                  • Dan...
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Machine Gunz
                    against Mock he suffered a flash kd, Haye went on to stop Mock,

                    against Thompson he came out guns blazing and hit Thomson with punch in the book, Haye didn't pace himself and was going for an early impressive KO (something Wlads hasn't the courage to do) against a former world champ, by what, round 4-5 he was gassed out severely and has nothing left in his tank which was his own fault, a Thompson punch didn't cause Haye to be out on his feet, it was his own wrongdoing,

                    all Thompson had to do was land a couple of combo's on Haye to force the ref to stop it, Thompson didn't ktfo Haye

                    against Mormeck he took a flush hook on the chin, took a knee, and went on to stop Mormeck
                    The point is that these guys are Cruisers, and not particularly great cruisers at that, who are hurting Haye and/or knocking him down.

                    Given that, there is no way that he is going to be able to stand up to what Wladimir has to offer, which is a hell of a lot more than Mock or Mormeck. If Wladimir can hit HAye, which is undoubtedly will be able to seeing he is the bigger and more skilled technician, he will hurt and stop him. It is as simple as that.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dan...
                      It would be entertaining I'm sure.

                      I'm not trying to hate on Haye, I like him and he is exciting for the division. I jsut don't really see him going close to beating Wladimir.
                      im just fed up of c-ing wlad in these fights that u have to force yourself to watch,boring and monotonous-not hating i just think the HW division needs some action like it use to have thats all

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