Wladimir Klitschko - The closest thing to Muhammad Ali

[-CANE-]

I don't understand a lot of the hate on this site towards Wlad, to me he is a world class boxer and the closest thing to Ali I have seen.

Does anyone else see the resemblance?

Show me your **** and all will be forgiven.

[GJC]

I don't understand a lot of the hate on this site towards Wlad, to me he is a world class boxer and the closest thing to Ali I have seen.

Does anyone else see the resemblance?

Lept straight out at me. The fascinating thing about that night was seeing Ustinov who was like watching Sugar Ray Robinson re-incarnated

[knn]

Ali-Norton III, Ali-Foreman, and Ali-Lyle all took place at the end of Ali's career.

Wrong.

Ali vs Lyle took 6 1/2 years before the end of Ali's career. If Wlad ends his career in 6 1/2 years I don't think anyone could claim that the Chagaev fight was at the end of Wlad's career.

Let me also add that this thread title is not "The closest thing to PRIME Muhammad Ali".

He had been a pro for 15 years when he fought those guys

WRONG.

Ali had his first heavyweight fight 1961 (against Sabedong, a 31-year-old 17-16 bum). The Ali-Lyle fight was 13 years later (1975). Basically comparable to Klitschko's heavyweight debut (1996) and his Chagaev fight (2009) = 12 years later, except that Ali-Lyle was Ali's 49th fight (actually only Ali's 26th fight since the rest were against cruisers) and Klitschko-Chagaev was Klitschko's 56 heavyweight fight.

In other words: After basically the same amount of years Klitschko fought MORE THAN TWICE THE AMOUNT OF HEAVYWEIGHT OPPONENTS.

Please stop inventing stuff about "the end of Ali's career" and "shot Ali". If Ali has been shot then because of his own overweight and his crappy defense.

The Ali that fought from 60-67 was head and shoulders above Wladdy

The Ali of the 1960ies (= his first fights) was a cruiser fighting cruisers (Ali's median weight: 199lbs, Ali's median oppoents: 197lbs). Compare the 60ies-Ali to Juan Carlos Gomez, not to Wlad.

Now if you claim, that "Ali was a rather good cruiser", then I could live with that.

[knn]

How ****ing dare you compare that guy to Ali. In fighting style or as a person.

In fighting style Wlad is head and shoulder over Ali. There is hardly anything as boring to watch as Ali (except 1960ies Ali = "Cassius Cruiser").

As a person Wlad is head and shoulders over trashtalking Ali. I think all this trashtalk and self-uphyping went so much into Ali's head, that he he is still caught in it. That's why even today he insults interviewers and behaves like a child.

[THE REED]

This thread absolutely disgusts me.

[Pugilistic™]

This thread absolutely disgusts me.

I think its about time you highjacked this **** son.

[knn]

As you will hopefully have the good grace to confirm that whilst I agree with nothing you say I do not resort to the cowardice of the red k?

GJC, I confirm that you are definitely one of the better posters here.

I like to read your posts, and I thank you that you engage in a disciplined conversation without throwing around Bad Karma.

[T.Horton]

knn needs to be banned for constantly referring to fighters as bums!

[Hitman Hodgson]

This isn't serious is it... Surly nobody sound of mind could think Vlad is anything like Ali.

[knn]

knn needs to be banned for constantly referring to fighters as bums!

Tim Horton gave me Red Karma.

Tim Horton is a Wlad hater ("There was nothing funnier to me than watching Wlad floundering around like a salmon trying to swim down stream every time Corrie Sanders nailed him"). Haters like him throw around Bad Karma without engaging in discussions. Another proof for my statements.