Simple reasons why PBF is bigger draw than PAQ.

**Kalion** · 06-20-2009, 04:11 PM

Nobody else thinks the same?

**mikelovesfood** · 06-20-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Kalion

For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:

PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.

Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.

DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue

Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?

Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?

Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.

The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.

I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.

Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.

PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.

And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.

If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.

Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.

When announcement was made that DLH would fight Pac several bloggers and just the boxing community as a whole mainly saw the fight as a mismatch; this is nothing new. PBF and DLH are both American born. They've been in the limelight of US boxing much longer than Pac has. The chances of a foreign champion to get the same attention as someone who was born and bred in US is highly unlikely. You just gotta admit...Even with all the success Pac has gotten he still has not cross over as far as mainstream media goes in the United States. FFS Mayweather did Dancing w/ the stars and WWE for crying out loud. He's been on all the late night shows. Has Pac actually been broadcasted on any live American TV? No. All these factors come into play as to why I think Pac didnt sell as much when he fought DLH.

One thing is for sure though. No one will dispute that whose the more exciting fighter to watch. Even Cus D'Amato said " It's all about putting asses in those seats". No one can blame PBF for his fighting style thats just how he fights.

**F-22 Raptor** · 06-20-2009, 04:44 PM

it doesn't make a difference. mayweather right now is injured and boxing can't expect things to wait for him. he made and agreement with JMM, claiming he "called him out", or whatever, so he has to be a man an honor that agreement. the next big fight after floyd is cotto, and pacquiao was impressed at a man that can sell 18 thousand tickets and has a whole country behind him. it's the way life is, pac can fight floyd in 2010 if he gets by cotto. but if that happens, then floyd will really have to take the low low end of the deal, and that's just the way he's going to have to deal with it, cuz that's just the way pacquiao rolls.

**Bhopreign** · 06-20-2009, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by mikelovesfood

When announcement was made that DLH would fight Pac several bloggers and just the boxing community as a whole mainly saw the fight as a mismatch; this is nothing new. PBF and DLH are both American born. They've been in the limelight of US boxing much longer than Pac has. The chances of a foreign champion to get the same attention as someone who was born and bred in US is highly unlikely. You just gotta admit...Even with all the success Pac has gotten he still has not cross over as far as mainstream media goes in the United States. FFS Mayweather did Dancing w/ the stars and WWE for crying out loud. He's been on all the late night shows. Has Pac actually been broadcasted on any live American TV? No. All these factors come into play as to why I think Pac didnt sell as much when he fought DLH.

One thing is for sure though. No one will dispute that whose the more exciting fighter to watch. Even Cus D'Amato said " It's all about putting asses in those seats". No one can blame PBF for his fighting style thats just how he fights.

Wrong, if everyone saw it as such a mismatch, why was Oscar only a 2-1 favorite? The people that matter, the ones betting on the fight obviously didnt see this big mismatch that so called experts said it was.

**baracuda** · 06-20-2009, 05:02 PM

pac's total ppv fights in the us = 9

floyd's total ppv fights in the us = 5

**Kalion** · 06-20-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by F-22 Raptor

it doesn't make a difference. mayweather right now is injured and boxing can't expect things to wait for him. he made and agreement with JMM, claiming he "called him out", or whatever, so he has to be a man an honor that agreement. the next big fight after floyd is cotto, and pacquiao was impressed at a man that can sell 18 thousand tickets and has a whole country behind him. it's the way life is, pac can fight floyd in 2010 if he gets by cotto. but if that happens, then floyd will really have to take the low low end of the deal, and that's just the way he's going to have to deal with it, cuz that's just the way pacquiao rolls.

Which would you say do larger PPV buys?

PAQ vs Cotto
PBF vs Cotto
PBF vs Paq

People have be asking for PBF vs Cotto for years and PAQ vs PBF is clamoured to be the biggest money fight in years.

People have just recently started flirted with the idea of Cotto vs PAQ. What im saying is PBF has been building his hype for years while PAQ has just recently aqquired his and cotto has been staedy but nothing outstanding. Thats why PBF is the biggest draw in boxing.

**Butterball** · 06-20-2009, 05:21 PM

I was looking for a thread on whether Floyd's a bigger draw than Pac or not.

Thank **** someone made one.

**hemichromis** · 06-20-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Kalion

For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:

PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.

Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.

DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue

Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?

Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?

Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.

The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.

I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.

Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.

PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.

And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.

If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.

Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.

Mayweather is American, tht is the main reason he is a bigger draw.

**Alex.Hdz** · 06-20-2009, 05:48 PM

Floyd is such a big draw his fight with JMM sold in minutes, oh wait a second my mistake, it hasn't even sold half the tickets. Floyd ain't no draw! I respect him but in this argument, I just say it like it is, he is no big draw.

Simple reasons why PBF is bigger draw than PAQ.