Mosley Sounds Off on Arum, Cotto-Pacquiao Bout

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  • tipps
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    #201
    Mosley sounds like a man not concerned with his legacy but desperate for a big payday I started watching boxing as a true fan in 1995 I remember when fighters fought everyone and anyone to unify a division and earned the right to be called the best now its more about how much am I gonna make dont get me wrong boxing is tough and a figher should be rewarded for his efforts but these greedy promotors and networks are slowly destroying the sport I love .

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    • BoBeTs
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      #202
      Originally posted by tipps
      Mosley sounds like a man not concerned with his legacy but desperate for a big payday I started watching boxing as a true fan in 1995 I remember when fighters fought everyone and anyone to unify a division and earned the right to be called the best now its more about how much am I gonna make dont get me wrong boxing is tough and a figher should be rewarded for his efforts but these greedy promotors and networks are slowly destroying the sport I love .
      i really agree with you sir... i remember those days when boxers are greedy to be unified those belts... now, its all about money...

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      • jetgeomcx
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        #203
        Originally posted by Mike_R
        Okay lets be real for second...

        Shane is old, he's going to retire in the next 2 years or so for sure and he wants a career defining fight. As many will point to the steroids controversy- you also have to acknowledge that his fights with Oscar aren't the fights shane might want to 'define his career'.

        i think shane wants a real blood and guts war that he can win before he hangs up the gloves.

        i'm obviously a shane mosley fan- but am I wrong to say that it's possible nobody under 165 pounds can knock him out? i definitely don't think Pac can. Mosley isn't hating on Cotto as i'm sure their rematch will happen no matter what- but Shane knows he can make a war with Manny and doesn't run the same risk of getting hammer fisted to the mat. I think Manny has one punch ko power behind his speed that Cotto may find startling. Actually... shane too

        Either way we're in for a good fight- but don't blame Mosley for stepping out and hollering at the top of his lungs to get the biggest fight possible first, he's the undisputed welterweight champion- it's also not his fault (or anybody elses) that Mayweather is such a picky little *****. Shane has fought a lot of honorable fights that made no sense for him to take. He's done enough gatekeeping and he's finally back into a position to demand more and he's doing it.

        Shane is Manny's most dangerous/viable choice. you can't blame him for being desperate for the fight, and he obviously isn't hiding that fact at all.

        I just hate to see Shane on the sidelines for a big fight when he has the least time left in the game. that right there is the heart of the issue for him and for me as a supporter.
        - a fyt and a win over manny won't be a career defining fyt for shane = manny is too small for shane. and the fans are averse to a 143 catchweight.
        there is real blood and guts war between sugar and pacman.
        fyt fans will label this match-up as farce, only for the $$$.

        - mosley is not chasing the "biggest fyt possible" for him against manny. pac will be his smallest opponent ever!!

        - the biggest doable fyt for shane to satisfy a "career defining, real blood and guts war" is against pwill the punisher. i only need to nod his head in assent. i would take that fyt if i were shane, there willl be some good $$$ in that fyt too.

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        • handler000
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          #204
          Originally posted by prsi
          What do you mean Mosley gave Cotto the shot. the way i saw it, Cotto gave Mosley the shot. While Cotto was ko the oposition (Quintana, Urkal, Zab Judah) while breaking the record of attendance in MSG, Mosley was on standby fighting a downhill Vargas twice and looking mediocre against Collazo and by the way Cotto beat him also Did you forget. Cotto draws more than Mosley. The only fight that Mosley probably sold more than Cotto was because it was with De La Hoya. Cotto has packed MSG (Judah, Mosley and Clottey) and the MGM (Margarito). Mosley did not fill nothing with Winky twice, Vargas and Mayorga.

          Bottom line is that until Mosley don't beat Cotto you can't say he's the best WW.

          Mosley needed a chance from Cotto in 2007, ho got it and lost, now he needs Cotto again.

          PS
          After the Cotto fight Mosley, even in defeat raised his value again. That's how good Cotto is considered.
          Yeah he is soooo goood. Is that why he dropped from #7 to #9 in The Ring's P4P list?? GTFOH!!!

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            #205
            Originally posted by The Surgeon
            Mosley DESERVES the fight, he is generally viewed as the number 1 fighter in the division and is coming off of an EPIC one for the ages type of win against Cotto conquerer and loaded gloves cheat Antonio Margarito

            There is ONE reason that Cotto got the shout and not Shane, and That is simple - Manny fancys his chances against the sometimes vulnerable Cotto and knows Sugar Shane would put his ass to sleep in under 6! FACT
            This guy knows whats up!

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            • handler000
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              #206
              Originally posted by Datu Puti
              I disagree with you prediction of MOSLEY/MAYWEATHER out selling both Mayweather/DLH AND MAYWEATHER/HATTON...Mosley doesn't have enough fan base in the US let alone around the world. For one thing, I don't see anyone in this era as of now that can out sell DLH'S PPV, not even PACQUIAO. DLH is a draw, its because women that don't watch boxing actually watches his fights (no many women that would agree with me) second of all Mosley doesn't have a whole country like HATTON following him around, **** Mosley's fan base in Cali didn't even follow him for the fight against Margarito, it was mostly Margarito's crowd..With that said, its ridiculous to say that Mosley/Mayweather will out sell the other two mayweather bouts that you mentioned, as a matter of fact I will bet you that PACQUIAO/MAYWEATHER will make more money than Mosley/Mayweather.. Don't get me wrong SSM is a skilled fighter, but just not a big draw.
              Ever heard of sarcasm???

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                #207
                Originally posted by tipps
                Mosley sounds like a man not concerned with his legacy but desperate for a big payday I started watching boxing as a true fan in 1995 I remember when fighters fought everyone and anyone to unify a division and earned the right to be called the best now its more about how much am I gonna make dont get me wrong boxing is tough and a figher should be rewarded for his efforts but these greedy promotors and networks are slowly destroying the sport I love .
                Fighters fight for money, SSM's legacy is already written. I know in a lot of fans fairytale worlds you think these fighters fight legacy, rep, etc. Bottom line it's because they are paid, you really think these guys care if they defend belts, win belts, etc. The only person that might care about that is Cotto because in terms of championships he's only had vacant championships, he's never beaten a champion for a belt.

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                  #208
                  SSM needs to shut up, step aside and take his desperation some where else.

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                  • Iceta
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                    #209
                    After seeing Cotto perform against Clottey the way he did, I don't see what he brings to the table where competitiveness is concerned for Pacquiao that Shane doesn't bring. Mosley beat a tougher opponent in Margarito and didn't come away with a scratch while doing it.

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                    • Iceta
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by prsi
                      Iceta,

                      Don't get me wrong i beleive mosley is a true Warrior and a Great Boxer and you're right he does deserve a chance at a Mega fight but i don't beleive that Cotto, Pacman or Arum are to blame for him not getting one.

                      If De La Hoya GBP really want to do something for Mosley he should open his pocket and persuad PBF from fighting the winner of Pacman-Cotto and give Mosley the chance that he deserves against PBF. De La Hoya is his promoter and has to step up and give his fighter what he deserves. Arum is doing it for his.
                      You make a lot of sense. If it wasn't for Arum, Shane wouldn't have gotten those fights against Cotto and Margarito. I can't fault Shane for fighting those guys at the time he did, but the problem I have with those fights is that each one that took place was not the most meaningful fight in the division. It seemed like Arum was terrified of putting Cotto and Margarito in with Paul Williams when it would've crowned a Ring champ. We wouldn't have gotten a fight between Margarito and Williams period if Margarito didn't go through that ****** court process with Arum. And I don't have a problem with the JMM-Floyd fight like a lot of other people do, but I just don't understand why De La Hoya gave JMM a shot at Floyd over Shane. JMM did aggressively call Mayweather out though. I blame both Arum and De La Hoya for not making the appropriate fights where division clarity is concerned.

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