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  • S A M U R A I
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    #71
    Originally posted by street bully
    These fools don't get it. They celebrate a narrow decision that was razor thin, and completely sweep the fact that Mosley totally demolished the man that gave Cotto te worst beating of his career under the rug. Mosley knocks Cotto out if they have a rematch.
    Agree with you. Cotto has slipped a little since the Margarito fight. He is still dangerous, especially for a smaller guy like Manny, but he is definitely not what he used to be. This is why I don't get it when people say "when the Cotto that fought Mosley turns up to fight Manny, lil Pac gets knocked out easily."

    Oh really? They don't seem to take into account that the Mosley fight was two years ago and Cotto has had the **** absolutely beaten out of him since then.



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      #72
      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      Agree with you. Cotto has slipped a little since the Margarito fight. He is still dangerous, especially for a smaller guy like Manny, but he is definitely not what he used to be. This is why I don't get it when people say "when the Cotto that fought Mosley turns up to fight Manny, lil Pac gets knocked out easily."

      Oh really? They don't seem to take into account that the Mosley fight was two years ago and Cotto has had the **** absolutely beaten out of him since then.
      That was just one fight sam, dont exaggerate. One fight doesnt make a guy shot. Packy had the snot kicked out of him against Morales 1 and 2 and both JMM fights, does that mean he's shot too?
      Cotto damage in the Clottey fight was misleading because of the headbutt anyway.
      Cotto will do Choogar Chain Mozlee even dirtier in a rematch.

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        #73
        Cotto or Mosley is a good fight for Manny. Cotto has more of a fanbase now than Mosley, so I will not dispute Arum for what he is doing.

        Arum is giving his two top fighters a great fight against each other. This is a dream fight for both of them. I do not see Arum doing anything wrong here.

        I feel bad for Mosley, but he has to realize that neither he or Cotto will get that coveted P4P#1 status if they beat Manny. Manny is already extended and beating him might move them up a notch on that scale, but you will more likely see Manny move down on it.

        Also Mosley dissing Clottey pisses me off. If he thinks Clottey is a nobody, get in the ring with him. I'm sure Clottey would love to make him realize that he is indeed a somebody.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Jay Em Em
          That was just one fight sam, dont exaggerate. One fight doesnt make a guy shot. Packy had the snot kicked out of him against Morales 1 and 2 and both JMM fights, does that mean he's shot too?
          Cotto damage in the Clottey fight was misleading because of the headbutt anyway.
          Cotto will do Choogar Chain Mozlee even dirtier in a rematch.
          Mosley doesn't get hurt easily and will have no respect for Cotto this time around. The blue print has been lain, and unless Cotto becomes a 5'11 defensive MW like winky wright or a vernon forrest I see Cotto getting put to sleep.

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            #75
            Originally posted by vaborikua
            speculations liek u always do one thing is ture street bully is a ***** thats for sure





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              #76
              Originally posted by Jay Em Em
              That was just one fight sam, dont exaggerate. One fight doesnt make a guy shot. Packy had the snot kicked out of him against Morales 1 and 2 and both JMM fights, does that mean he's shot too?
              Cotto damage in the Clottey fight was misleading because of the headbutt anyway.
              Cotto will do Choogar Chain Mozlee even dirtier in a rematch.
              Well, first of all, where did I say Cotto was "shot"? I actually said he's "slipped a little". That doesn't mean "shot", it just means he's not 100% anymore. Plenty of previously undefeated fighters lose something when they lose a fight, especially in the way that Cotto lost against Margarito. That was a brutal beating.

              Also, I disagree that Manny had the **** kicked out of him by Morales. It was a close fight at 115-113 and Morales was almost out on his feet by the end of that fight. Manny was out-boxed by a couple of rounds, and it's not surprising seeing as he was cut, just as Cotto was against Clottey. But you still gave Cotto a pass for that, right? Well, be a sport and do the same for Manny who had to deal with a nasty cut, too. On top of that, he was forced to wear pillows on his hands. You saw what happened in the other two fights. With a pair of Reyes strapped on, Morales couldn't take Manny's power and therefore he had the **** kicked out of him.

              Also, Marquez, IMO, did not win either fight with Pacquiao. Let's agree to disagree because nothing you or anyone says will ever change my mind on this. I have watched those fights countless times and every single time I have Pacquiao ahead.



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                #77
                As an added note. Goldenboy tried their damnedest to overshadow Pacquiao and Top Rank when they announced the Floyd fight on the day of the Pac Hatton fight.

                They are now crying foul over Cotto vs Manny? Cotto has earned his dues. He has fought hard against top competition for years looking for that "megafight". Mosley has had a ton of Megafights already. Move aside and let another dog have his day.

                Lately it has become harder to remain a fan of Mosley. He has a ton of options to remain in the picture. If he would just line up a fight in the fall, he will be a frontrunner for the winner of this fight.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                  Well, first of all, where did I say Cotto was "shot"? I actually said he's "slipped a little". That doesn't mean "shot", it just means he's not 100% anymore. Plenty of previously undefeated fighters lose something when they lose a fight, especially in the way that Cotto lost against Margarito. That was a brutal beating.

                  Also, I disagree that Manny had the **** kicked out of him by Morales. It was a close fight at 115-113 and Morales was almost out on his feet by the end of that fight. Manny was out-boxed by a couple of rounds, and it's not surprising seeing as he was cut, just as Cotto was against Clottey. But you still gave Cotto a pass for that, right? Well, be a sport and do the same for Manny who had to deal with a nasty cut, too. On top of that, he was forced to wear pillows on his hands. You saw what happened in the other two fights. With a pair of Reyes strapped on, Morales couldn't take Manny's power and therefore he had the **** kicked out of him.

                  Also, Marquez, IMO, did not win either fight with Pacquiao. Let's agree to disagree because nothing you or anyone says will ever change my mind on this. I have watched those fights countless times and every single time I have Pacquiao ahead.
                  Manny won the first fight against JMM
                  2nd fight was a draw.
                  I know what I just wrote is not official, but it should be. I'm godlike

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BOOMbip
                    Man down....Vab has been Banned.

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                    I warned him about that **** last night, but he went down swinging. A true E warrior.
                    And btw Boom, I'm not even a member yet I was the only one helping him against a throng of Kamikaze *******s...where the hell were you guys when he needed you??
                    You guys need to go in the hole for a while for dereliction of CArtel Duty.

                    If you keep this up, your gonna have a mutiny on your hands!! A mutiny I tells ya!!

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                      Well, first of all, where did I say Cotto was "shot"? I actually said he's "slipped a little". That doesn't mean "shot", it just means he's not 100% anymore. Plenty of previously undefeated fighters lose something when they lose a fight, especially in the way that Cotto lost against Margarito. That was a brutal beating.

                      Also, I disagree that Manny had the **** kicked out of him by Morales. It was a close fight at 115-113 and Morales was almost out on his feet by the end of that fight. Manny was out-boxed by a couple of rounds, and it's not surprising seeing as he was cut, just as Cotto was against Clottey. But you still gave Cotto a pass for that, right? Well, be a sport and do the same for Manny who had to deal with a nasty cut, too. On top of that, he was forced to wear pillows on his hands. You saw what happened in the other two fights. With a pair of Reyes strapped on, Morales couldn't take Manny's power and therefore he had the **** kicked out of him.

                      Also, Marquez, IMO, did not win either fight with Pacquiao. Let's agree to disagree because nothing you or anyone says will ever change my mind on this. I have watched those fights countless times and every single time I have Pacquiao ahead.
                      Morales cut pacquiao with his fists. Cotto was cut by a butt. And Morales did beat the **** out of Packy in that fight. Google post fight photos of his face. Just as in the Marquez fights. Google post fight photos of his face in those fights and you'll see a mangled mess.
                      The only reason Terrible was "almost out on his feet" was cuz' he's a crazy mother****er who switched southpaw for the fans delight.
                      In Pac/Morales two Erik was up on all the cards at the time of the stoppage. Dont forget that part. Even an washed up Morales was good enough to outbox Packy back then.

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