I ahve said it many times, Bernard Hopkins ruins fighters, and their careers.

[PittyPat]

Even as a Calzaghe fan, it's all true. The man really does ruin careers. Green Kay, your way!

[deanrw]

Hopkins has fought smaller and larger men. It balances out. When he was middleweight champion, he had some smaller hotshots come up and challenge him, but so has every other middleweight champion.

The Middleweight division has always been an enigma. The champs there are usually unheralded for the most part and they make their name(and Money) from the stars of welterweight who move up for some reason. The welterweights produce the stars and they eventually challenge the middleweight champ.

I would say Pavlik is actually bigger than Hopkins naturally, but just bit off more than he could chew. Hopkins fought a masterful fight and would never let Pavlik get set. Not only was there a gap in speed and talent, but I also don't think Pavlik can handle extra weight well.

[Abstraction]

Further proof why so many of these Brit fans are a joke. Before you start, yes im from From Britain, but unlike some of these backward nationalists, i can think straight.

First of all, Hopkins was MW. DLH was LMW.
The bout was at 156lbs, more close to the 154 weight limit of Oscar.

End of discussion/

[Gojira]

yeah, calzaghe was all over the place wasnt he.

[street bully]

Bumped for Thegr8estoat, give it a read through.

[Glamour Puss]

This is an inspired Street Bully masterpiece.

Green Kaye for you, you petty Ugandan dictator.

Btw, wasn't Mercado Ecuadorian?

Edit: crap, I must spread reputation around before giving it to Street Bully again!!!

[street bully]

This is an inspired Street Bully masterpiece.

Green Kaye for you, you petty Ugandan dictator.

Btw, wasn't Mercado Ecuadorian?

Edit: crap, I must spread reputation around before giving it to Street Bully again!!!

Yes you are right, he is.

[Guest]

Maybe if ****** Hop would've thrown more than 3 punches a round he wouldn't of cost me 400 bucks on the Taylor fight.

Some executioner, some will breaker.

Then he goes and loses again. Thank god I didn't bet a second time.


It wouldn't have hurt to wow the judges now and again Hop.

Emphasize that you are winning instead of piddling around and costing jreck money

[street bully]

Maybe if ****** Hop would've thrown more than 3 punches a round he wouldn't of cost me 400 bucks on the Taylor fight.

Some executioner, some will breaker.

Then he goes and loses again. Thank god I didn't bet a second time.


It wouldn't have hurt to wow the judges now and again Hop.

Emphasize that you are winning instead of piddling around and costing jreck money

Most know Hopkins beat Taylor. Anyone can see that Taylor landed much less, and hit nothing but air.

[Guest]

Most know Hopkins beat Taylor. Anyone can see that Taylor landed much less, and hit nothing but air.

Well the books didn't see it that way and my wallet got lighter.

Why couldn't he win convincingly against that fraud Taylor?

Everytime I think about that fight it pisses me off to no end.

Saying it was a robbery doesn't help.

Impress the judges at least once or twice.

He was hitting Taylor late, couldn't he have started, you know say before round 8 to start breaking him down, and imposing his "execution style" or whatever the **** u call it.