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I have never really thought that Floyd sold tickets, but I always felt he was a strong draw for PPV.
I think they are guerenteed like 16 million together (Floyd 12 JMM 4 75/25 seems about right on the split, this is a guess though and am talking jsut base pay no upside). 28 million in overall cost (I used 12 million in additional cost because 10 seemed to little and 14 seemed to high).
Regular PPV cost $55 and Hd are $65 (I don't know the percentage but after watching fights I HD I can't go back to sd, so I am going to split the difference and say $60 per PPV).
28,000,000/60 is like 466,000 buys will just make it 500,000 as a break even point with just PPV.
Now that they cancled the first fight they already spent millions on marketing it, so to break even (maybe 30-32 million) they will have to sell even more later on because they will have to spend that money all over again to market the fight on the new date. By doing this that are risking a much bigger loss, which is why I say that Floyd is most likely injured (injured enough to pull out of the first date anyways, how far the fight gets pushed back is another matter). I really doubt that the overall market for this fight changes down the road, maybe it does a slightly better live gate on Sept 18th but is that enough to throw away the millions already spent on marketing.
To me this would be very bad business and Richard Scheaffer is an excellent business man (say what you will about him, but he does know what he is doing).Comment
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Give him a chance, 3 days... maybe they have seen he is injured think the fight will have to be postponed, and he is going back to the doctor to get more information on it... x-rays and see when he will be allowed to return. We don't know, I don't... you don't, people are jumping to conclusions just wait it out and see what we hear next.
No, if your saying show x-rays and there will be no controversy you are basically saying the guy can't and isn't allowed an injury... I never heard any of this bitching and moaning from guys when other people have injuries... but when its Floyd he has to show x-rays to prove he is injured otherwise it is controversial and he is faking.
Like I said, wait it out... we don't know what's happening yet, jumping to conclusions don't get us anywhere. It might be faked, it might not be... he could be slightly injured but just exaggerated we don't know... people should just wait for a more concrete source to come out to give a bit more solid information on it.Comment
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You make some good points. The injury just happened and they probably just got the MRI. I think it's pushing it to accuse Floyd of making up the injury, that's like saying he's guilty and he has to prove his innocence. The likely story is that he got hurt and they are using it as an opportunity to change or cancel the fight in order to save face (esp for floyd). It is also very convenient and transparent.
If the source you are referring to is mr kim, he is as solid as they come. Get over it spacey, all signs point to crappy tix sales.
Gambler, how are you the only one who knows exactly what the injury is?Comment
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I am going by what Richard Schaeffer said (AP article), that is was a cartalidge thing and not a broken rib. I hope it is not that injury though, that is a messed up injury to have. From the way it is explained that is what it sounds like to me, since I knew someone that had that injury.
Also judging by the time frame Rafeal has said Sept 18th at the earliest, that seems to fit in with the 6 weeks rest that is the typical recovery time (webmd).
6 weeks rest+ 6week camp = 12 weeks 12 weeks equals about 3 months, about 3 months from now mid-september.
I am a gambler it is my business to know such things~.Comment
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Come on we know the ticket **** isn't reliable enough "Sources tell MaxBoxing" just doesn't cut it enough as a reliable source, rumors can start from absolutely anywhere. I aint saying it is faked or not, I am saying don't jump to conclusions cause there is yet to be proof from a concrete source... until that happens and there is information from ticketmaster or something or from somebody that handles the tickets I am not gonna jump to conclusions.
As you said... maybe he is in pain, maybe he isn't, maybe he is a little and there using it as an opportunity to postpone for more tickets, we don't know... the only thing we can do it wait and see what happens... wait for a reliable source because there is yet to be one.
Fair is fair, this is as fair as it gets... jumping to conclusions without any proof or concrete evidence is unfair, people should just wait and see what happens.Comment
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If there is an injury they know the extent of it hence the must have had an opinion from at least one doctor. GBP would not postpone the fight due to injury if they weren't sure that Floyd was unable to fight.
There's no need for another doctor. The fight has already been delayed 2 months.
Every fighter is allowed to have an injury as I've said earlier. Floyd being Floyd meaning that he is just under the public microscope more than any other fighter as can be clearly seen here and on any other boxingsite. It's just the way it is and the price paid for being a superstar I guess.Comment
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u cant trust a guy who made it rain with fake money;
U just cant.Comment
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Is this the look of a honest man?
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