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Floyd Money Mayweather is he that good?? Why I left the Mafia...By Lefty
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostI don't get it what was the vidication? Beating a blown up LW in JMM or being part of the biggest fight in the sport falling apart. I put up a thread saying some things about Floyd being a smart business man but I still think he is crap until he faces a true WW this time around. If he fights Shanes and I truly hope they fight then there might be some vidication but until that happens all he has done is blown his shot at Manny and beat an over weight JMM....Lefty
You try so hard to be neutral sometimes, but you fail everytime. Neutrality isn't bashing every fighter equally. If you really want to try to come off as neutral, try following a poster like "Silencers".
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Originally posted by Marijuana View PostOh, and you still think Floyd blew the Duckquiao fight?
His last three moves have been genius IMO. He has been shaping this fight from the very begining.
1) His first come back fight he takes on JMM. People call him a cherry picker amongst other things. This was done for one reason to obtain better bargaining leverage at the negotiations table. He takes out JMM in pretty easy fashion thus eliminating a public demand for a PAC vs JMM III.
2) He demands RANDOM TESTING for the fight with PAC on 3/13. When PAC made it a bigger thing than originally intended he puts an * next to PACS name in many of the common fans eyes. Thus the only fighter who is possibly compared to him as the BEST OF THIS ERA in many people eyes may have cheated. Even if he didn't walking away from 40 million in comparision to just giving blood RAISED some eyebrows.
3) He keeps his demand for RANDOM TESTING and says he is going to use it in every fight going forward to "CLEAN UP BOXING" PAC announces a fight with Clottey anther TOP RANK promoted fighter for the 3/13 date. NO SUCH TESTING is required. People are leaning back towards PAC and a good fight Floyd is left in limbo with out a dance partner. (no pun intended)
4) 1/18/09 Berto with draws from match with Mosley for Jan 30th date. Now possible match up between Floyd and Mosley lands in Floyds lap. Whether it goes down on March 13th or May1st undecided. But he puts the demand out there for RANDOM DRUG TEST with an admitted ROID user. (whether he knew about it or not he did admit it sorry Shane) Floyd can ink this deal he goes one up on Manny and also eliminates another potential opponent for Manny post his 3/13 date and inches himself a little closer to cornering Manny and shifting momentum back to GBP and himself at the negotiations table.
Just my take on thing gentlemen agree or disagree....Lefty
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Originally posted by Marijuana View PostLefty, take the **** out of your ass. Are you criticizing Margarito for fighting Carson jones? Did you criticize Cotto for fighting Jennings? Did you criticize Pac for fighting David Diaz? How do you even begin to criticize Floyd for fighting JMM after a 21 month layoff? It was a tune up fight that they were able to sell 1M PPVs with.
You try so hard to be neutral sometimes, but you fail everytime. Neutrality isn't bashing every fighter equally. If you really want to try to come off as neutral, try following a poster like "Silencers"...lefty
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostHe took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. he moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day. All along people were calling for him to face legitimate 147lbs like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars.
Lefty
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostI don't get it what was the vidication? Beating a blown up LW in JMM or being part of the biggest fight in the sport falling apart. I put up a thread saying some things about Floyd being a smart business man but I still think he is crap until he faces a true WW this time around. If he fights Shanes and I truly hope they fight then there might be some vidication but until that happens all he has done is blown his shot at Manny and beat an over weight JMM....LeftyOriginally posted by Easy Work Sr. View Posthow about you make a thread about Manny Pacquiao's padded resume before he fought Barrera?
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostHe took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. he moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day. All along people were calling for him to face legitimate 147lbs like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars.
Now whether it be due to negotiations his hands the WWE giving him millions to sign a contract with them he retired. Personally I think it had to do with the amount of money he made and the fact his hands were hurting him. he took a breather announced his retirement from the sport. I hold no grudges for that every man is entitled to call it quits when he feels he has no desire to continue. in our sport when you lose the desire to fight you often get hurt inside the ring.
Fast forward to 2008 Floyd is in trouble with the IRS. His real estate investments have gone sour. he is robbed for over 7 mil in ***els. it seems the so called king might be prime for a comeback. Is it $$$ motivated fans and critics ask come fellas with Money Mayweather it is always about the money. So it is rumored he is in the gym training again and might be coming out of retirement to take on the TOP P4P fighters and earn himself a few nice paydays. Allow him to settle up with Uncle Sam and make a few margin calls bail out some real estate debts and so forth.
I can't hate on him if you need to work then you need to work right? Bring on Floyd lets get him tuned up against a fighter and then throw him back in the fire with Cotto or Mosley....Heck lets see him get in their in a rematch with Hatton if he wants it......Manny is ripping through everyone I want to see who is the P4P King once and for all. bring it on i was thinking to myself. So here it comes May 2nd Pac vs Hatton everyone has been drooling over thr fight now for a few months and boom the announcement. the King is back!!! Floyd is coming out of retirement to fight JMM because sometimes you get what you wish for.
Now I am thinking to myself I was hoping to see Floyd come back and fight I know JMM is no slouch but what happened to Cotto, Clottey, Mosley heck even get in there with Berto or Collazo for that matter. Ok so I swallowed that pill and accepted it I said to myself JMM is no slouch you can never measure the size of someones heart and JMM is a true warrior. Floyd is coming of a 18 month layoff and this will be a decent fight. Guess what?
Boom Cotto defeats Clottey it seems tickets sales are down for Floyd and apparently there is an injury to Floyd ribs. What now possibly no fight on July 18th. I see some interviews past and present I watch a few old tapes of fights and honestly I am completely turned off by this hoodwink of a crook. I can't help it fellas I know the man has talent but he irritates me to the core. he talks out the left side of his mouth and sits on his brains. he tells so many lies and has so many excuses for not fighting this guy and not fighting that guy it is awful.
he tells so many lies he forget what he said. i can't see how anyone would like someone who claims to be the best but is so reluctant to prove it. Tossing money at the camera's and into crowds come on. Like I said before if Floyd took on 3 top WW on his supposed hit list and Manny and went 2-2 in those fights but fought and gave us what we wanted I would remember those wars and think 41-2 all the titles and he fought this guy that guy and this guy I would look back and remember that instead of remembering the fights we didn't get.....Lefty
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Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View PostHe took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. he moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day. All along people were calling for him to face legitimate 147lbs like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars.
Now whether it be due to negotiations his hands the WWE giving him millions to sign a contract with them he retired. Personally I think it had to do with the amount of money he made and the fact his hands were hurting him. he took a breather announced his retirement from the sport. I hold no grudges for that every man is entitled to call it quits when he feels he has no desire to continue. in our sport when you lose the desire to fight you often get hurt inside the ring.
Fast forward to 2008 Floyd is in trouble with the IRS. His real estate investments have gone sour. he is robbed for over 7 mil in ***els. it seems the so called king might be prime for a comeback. Is it $$$ motivated fans and critics ask come fellas with Money Mayweather it is always about the money. So it is rumored he is in the gym training again and might be coming out of retirement to take on the TOP P4P fighters and earn himself a few nice paydays. Allow him to settle up with Uncle Sam and make a few margin calls bail out some real estate debts and so forth.
I can't hate on him if you need to work then you need to work right? Bring on Floyd lets get him tuned up against a fighter and then throw him back in the fire with Cotto or Mosley....Heck lets see him get in their in a rematch with Hatton if he wants it......Manny is ripping through everyone I want to see who is the P4P King once and for all. bring it on i was thinking to myself. So here it comes May 2nd Pac vs Hatton everyone has been drooling over thr fight now for a few months and boom the announcement. the King is back!!! Floyd is coming out of retirement to fight JMM because sometimes you get what you wish for.
Now I am thinking to myself I was hoping to see Floyd come back and fight I know JMM is no slouch but what happened to Cotto, Clottey, Mosley heck even get in there with Berto or Collazo for that matter. Ok so I swallowed that pill and accepted it I said to myself JMM is no slouch you can never measure the size of someones heart and JMM is a true warrior. Floyd is coming of a 18 month layoff and this will be a decent fight. Guess what?
Boom Cotto defeats Clottey it seems tickets sales are down for Floyd and apparently there is an injury to Floyd ribs. What now possibly no fight on July 18th. I see some interviews past and present I watch a few old tapes of fights and honestly I am completely turned off by this hoodwink of a crook. I can't help it fellas I know the man has talent but he irritates me to the core. he talks out the left side of his mouth and sits on his brains. he tells so many lies and has so many excuses for not fighting this guy and not fighting that guy it is awful.
he tells so many lies he forget what he said. i can't see how anyone would like someone who claims to be the best but is so reluctant to prove it. Tossing money at the camera's and into crowds come on. Like I said before if Floyd took on 3 top WW on his supposed hit list and Manny and went 2-2 in those fights but fought and gave us what we wanted I would remember those wars and think 41-2 all the titles and he fought this guy that guy and this guy I would look back and remember that instead of remembering the fights we didn't get.....Lefty
that's all there is to it, plain and simple. period. the guy's a salesman.
i don't know how ppl still question his motives. he's a great fighter, the best in the game right now, but you won't see him fight other great fighters (if there are any) unless it makes "cents" for him.
that's floyd. in order to like him, you must "understand" him. everybody would've rather seen mayweather-mosley instead of mayweather-marquez, but the fact remains he was offered 8 million for one of those fights, and 15 for the other.....easy choice, i can't knock dude for that. and if he was going through financial problems, it's not really that hard to figure out why he chose the fight he did.
you dudes think too much. it ain't that hard.
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Originally posted by tyde13 View Posthe takes the most lucrative fights out there for him...lefty.
that's all there is to it, plain and simple. period. the guy's a salesman.
i don't know how ppl still question his motives. he's a great fighter, the best in the game right now, but you won't see him fight other great fighters (if there are any) unless it makes "cents" for him.
that's floyd. in order to like him, you must "understand" him. everybody would've rather seen mayweather-mosley instead of mayweather-marquez, but the fact remains he was offered 8 million for one of those fights, and 15 for the other.....easy choice, i can't knock dude for that. and if he was going through financial problems, it's not really that hard to figure out why he chose the fight he did.
you dudes think too much. it ain't that hard.
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