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  • S.G.
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    #21
    if they still include Vazquez they should still include R. Marquez.

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    • ИATAS
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      #22
      ^^agree. Although I'm getting tempted to remove them both from my list if they don't fight soon.

      Originally posted by chicano79us
      In a way you're right. I don't see how Hopkins is rated so high and he's 3-3 in his last 6 fights, plus he doesn't have a belt lol.
      He wasn't ranked then he beat Tarver, got him ranked, then Winky, lost a very very close fight to calzaghe which many believe he won, then pavlik. All of those guys were ranked in the top 10 pound 4 pound. Do you see now? No other fighter in the sport has fought four top 10 pound 4 pound fighters in a row.

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      • BoxingChaos
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        #23
        It has not been updated that is why the rankings are the way they are, they will do it at the end of the month. Calm down.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          He wasn't ranked then he beat Tarver, got him ranked, then Winky, lost a very very close fight to calzaghe which many believe he won, then pavlik. All of those guys were ranked in the top 10 pound 4 pound. Do you see now?
          Only people that think he won against Calzaghe are mostly sore Americans, Hopkins, and defensive type fans. That's how I see it. Pavlik isn't great, he's just a dude who is a champion in a weak division. Tarver sucks too, he only got there by beating Jones.
          Last edited by Mr. Fantastic; 06-15-2009, 06:42 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            ^^agree. Although I'm getting tempted to remove them both from my list if they don't fight soon.

            Marquez just fought not too long ago.

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              #26
              Originally posted by PR Boxer
              Why the *** did they move Cotto down two positions below Darchinyan and Donaire if Cotto won against Clottey? Here are the ratings:


              1. Manny Pacquiao
              Country: Philippines
              Record: 49-3-2 (37 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 289
              Titles: The Ring

              2. Juan Manuel Marquez
              Country: Mexico
              Record: 50-4-1 (37 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 118
              Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring

              3. Bernard Hopkins
              Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
              Record: 49-5-1 (32 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 158

              4. Shane Mosley
              Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
              Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 21
              Titles: WBA

              5. Israel Vazquez
              Country: Mexico
              Record: 43-4-0 (31 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 98

              6. Rafael Marquez
              Country: Mexico
              Record: 38-5-0 (34 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 56

              7. Nonito Donaire
              Country: Philippines
              Record: 21-1-0 (14 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 7
              Titles: IBF

              8. Vic Darchinyan
              Country: Armenia
              Record: 32-1-1 (26 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 19
              Titles: WBA, WBC, IBF

              9. Miguel Cotto
              Country: Puerto Rico
              Record: 34-1-0 (27 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 7
              Titles: WBO

              10. Celestino Caballero
              Country: Panama
              Record: 32-2-0 (22 KOs)
              Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 21
              Titles: WBA, IBF



              http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/pound_for_pound/
              As long as there is not mention of Fruad Mayweather Jr up there, I am fine with the way the ratings are

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                #27
                Originally posted by chicano79us
                Only people that think he won against Calzaghe are mostly Americans, Hopkins, and defensive type fans. That's how I see it. Pavlik isn't great, he's just a dude who is a champion in a weak division. Tarver sucks too, he only got there by beating Jones.
                Yahoo.com and The Ring Mag scored it for hopkins, amongst others.

                But even if you did score it for Calzaghe, the point that IT WAS SO VERY CLOSE doesn't effect his pound 4 pound rating much, being that Joe was 46-0 and ranked a spot higher than bhops.

                Ok, so Pavlik, Tarver suck now? So being 40 years old going up from 160 to 175 and being a 4-1 underdog and beating Tarver who was the man at 175 and owned the ring belt wasn't a great accomplishment? Beating a undefeated fighter in pavlik, also being a 4-1 underdog at 43 years old when everyone and their mama picked pavlik to win, many by KO, isn't great? pfffffffft, you don't know boxing my friend. Time to retire from the boards.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  Marquez just fought not too long ago.
                  forgot about that, thanks for the correction.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    Yahoo.com and The Ring Mag scored it for hopkins, amongst others.

                    But even if you did score it for Calzaghe, the point that IT WAS SO VERY CLOSE doesn't effect his pound 4 pound rating much, being that Joe was 46-0 and ranked a spot higher than bhops.

                    Ok, so Pavlik, Tarver suck now? So being 40 years old going up from 160 to 175 and being a 4-1 underdog and beating Tarver who was the man at 175 and owned the ring belt wasn't a great accomplishment? Beating a undefeated fighter in pavlik, also being a 4-1 underdog at 43 years old when everyone and their mama picked pavlik to win, many by KO, isn't great? pfffffffft, you don't know boxing my friend. Time to retire from the boards.
                    They aren't great. I knew you Hopkins fans always bring his age up. Common now, anyone that's smart enough should know Tarver didn't have a chance against Hopkins. Pavlik was undefeated, so what...other than Taylor he didn't do ****. Miranda was all hype. Only the casual fans who are bought by the hype were all over Pavlik, kinda like the great white hope for them.

                    I don't know boxing because I don't agree with you?? Ok!! FYI I know a lot about boxing. Unlike you, I speak the truth, even if you don't like it.

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                    • sylvestersweet
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                      #30
                      No way Caballero should be there. And Vasquez hasn't fought in the longest time. Put in Pavlik and Froch, move up Cotto.

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