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  • Everyone knows that mosley will be trouble for pacquiao,and thats why no one wants it to happen...pacquiao is fast but mosley is fast and powerful plus he is the super champ at welter at this very moment..he deserves manny more than cotto does ,,cotto needs a rest after the cut..

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    • Originally posted by csko-2k1 View Post
      Everyone knows that mosley will be trouble for pacquiao,and thats why no one wants it to happen...pacquiao is fast but mosley is fast and powerful plus he is the super champ at welter at this very moment..he deserves manny more than cotto does ,,cotto needs a rest after the cut..
      You forget that after taking and admitting to steroids, thereby making Mosley bigger and faster maybe powerful than he naturally is, I don`t think he deserves Pac.
      Last edited by ThunderWolf; 06-16-2009, 09:44 AM.

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      • Mosley is losing a lot of clout by being inactive. That's for sure. But to me it's going to be a ***** move on Pacquiao's part to only have the intention of fighting Cotto who took hella punishment against Clottey without fighting Shane Mosley somewhere down the line. I don't have a problem with Pacquiao giving Cotto a shot. Just be fair and give that same one to Mosley if Manny gets past Cotto. Mosley looked like a million bucks against Margarito, who obviously is considered a better fighter than Clottey. I know the Margarito-Clottey fight was competitive though. But Shane just ran over Margo like a tractor. If he takes at least a stay busy fight until Pacquaio is ready to fight him, then Mosley should get the shot if Pacquaio has intentions of fighting Welterweights. It's not Mosley or Cotto's fault that Pacquaio has no intention of defending his title against legit challengers at 135 and 140.

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        • Why doesn't Schaefer lure Calzaghe out of retirement and put Sugar Shane up against him? Why keep on picking on the small guy when Shane can enhance his greatness better against bigger guys and thus become Schaeffer's main meal ticket? Mosley can be a much bigger draw than he is if he dares to tilt at what many people may think of as windmills. As Pacquiao did.

          Joe has recently said he'd be available if there's 10 million dollars. There's a prospect of considerable trans-atlantic income stream right there. But, if that's too much money to risk on Calzaghe, why doesn't Shaeffer put Mosley up against Pavlik for less? As I recall, Mosley has fought at Jr. Middleweight (vs. Winky, twice and Mayorga, once), so, why not at Middleweight?

          Why pick on the small guy who has had only two fights heavier than Lightweight when there are lots of big guys who can truly pose as real tests to Mosley's greatness? Pacquiao helped his legacy by going against bigger guys, why can't Mosley and why shouldn't he?

          Pacquiao jumped over the Jr. Welterweight division and fought De La Hoya at Welterweight, why shouldn't Shaeffer think of something similar and make Mosley hop over Middleweight and pit him against Roy Jones, Jr. at some SuperMiddleweight catchweight? IF he beats Roy Jones, then Shaefer can look in the direction of Pavlik and then Chad Dawson. If Mosley finds success and wins belts at Middleweight and LightHeavy, he'd be a five division champ who earned the reputation of facing relative giants, instead of being remembered as the WBC Welterweight Superchamp who successfully defended his title against a small guy (granting that he wins in a Pacquiao meeting).

          Mosley can do a Pacquiao instead of trying to beat a small Pacquiao. Why shouldn't he? Is it because Schaefer thinks Mosley can't get past someone his own size, i.e., LightMiddleweight? Someone named Vernon Forrest...or Winky Wright? Or, Paul Williams? Maybe Schaffer should just try...

          Schaefer's boss, Oscar De La Hoya, whom Mosley officially beat twice, won a Middleweight belt (vs. Felix Sturm) in a fight that nearly everyone thought he lost. So, Schaefer should, at least, try doing something for Mosley who also owns part of GBP.

          Schaefer knocking a Pacquiao-Cotto match to wring out a Pacquiao-Mosley fight sordidly overlooks something that needs to be seriously considered: Cotto beat Mosley. Referrencing performances against common opponents (Margarito) can only be valid if Cotto has not as yet met Mosley. They have and Cotto beat Mosley. Why should Pacquiao face the loser?

          Personally, I am fascinated by the possibility of Pacquiao eventually taking on Mosley but putting down a Pacquiao-Cotto fight to make that happen is, to me, terribly out of line.

          Golden Boy Promotions should look to picking up the spade and building Mosley and its other fighters further (the route outlined above can be considered) instead of reaping money out of Pacquiao as well as other stars that other people have built (and the latter includes fighters in GBP's own stable such as, Mosley, Hopkins and even De La Hoya, himself.) or putting down marque' names if they don't toe the GBP line.

          GBP only has itself to blame for having recently found itself losing much of its clout in the sport; it has not built up potential stars in its stables and just traded and continues to trade on its ageing superstars.

          And, yes, dabbling in the MMA/UFC, a competing sport that was also built by others.
          Last edited by grayfist; 06-16-2009, 08:32 PM.

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          • lols

            manny doesnt deserve to be critisized, he is doing what makes him comfortable in such weight since he is the P4P king. if someone wants to dethrone his crown as the king of boxing, they must catch the weight what manny wanted to fight. simple logic...

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            • And Mosley needs to get off this Pacquiao **** even though I think Pacquaio is displaying opportunistic matchmaking by chasing Cotto instead of him. Paul Williams is wanting to fight him it seems like to me. The only thing that I don't understand is why didn't Goosen come up with a concrete dollar amount when he came on BScene with a press release trying to get Shane to fight Paul. He said he would make it financially worth Mosley's while but he didn't come up with the exact amount of the money offer. And that makes the call out look kind of weak in a way.

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              • Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                And Mosley needs to get off this Pacquiao **** even though I think Pacquaio is displaying opportunistic matchmaking by chasing Cotto instead of him.

                Pacquiao's been doing this. For example, instead of fighting David Diaz at '35, why not go after somebody who was hot then like Casamayor, Campbell, or Juan Diaz??? Why of all the champions, David Diaz (who had a tough fight with a done Morales)? The sad thing is that it's not 100% Manny's fault, of course it always comes down to him giving the thumbs up, but it's Roach who's outwitting the boxing industry.

                We saw the results of DLH coming down to '47 after six years fighting at '54 and '60. We saw it when the Hatton fight was signed (if everyone outside of Manchester didn't see Hatton losing.... I don't what to say). Now let's watch the tko Cotto show begin.

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                • Originally posted by 6Bound View Post
                  Hes a ****head but yeah it should be Shane vs Pac....Doesnt matter though, cuz Pac would get stopped brutally by Shane or Cotto..So its just a case of who wants to kick mannys ass first..

                  Originally posted by jantzen212003 View Post
                  1st choice = shot fighter who eats uppercuts for breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, and a mid-nite snack!

                  Excellent match making by team pacq!


                  Here's 2 proven Pachaters but goes about it with contrasting styles. Get your shiet together and synchronize your watches next time...

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                  • Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                    And Pacquiao is really turning me against him. His last four opponents were coming off unimpressive performances in either their last fight or the one before that. When I'm a fan of a boxer, I've got high standards. And Mosley has more credibility than Cotto does regardless of whose fan base is bigger. Manny needs to beat him if he wants to be recognized as a 7-division champ. He's the better fighter than Cotto. Mosley destroyed the guy with the high work rate and Cotto barely squeaked by the guy with the low work rate. Do the math.


                    One less fan for him won't hurt his pockets, and his legacy, really...

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                    • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
                      look dude mosley has EARNED THE RIGHT TO NOT FACE A BIGGER GUY AND YOUNGER IN WILLIAMS and pac HAS NOT EARNED THE RIGHT TO NOT FACE MOSLEY PERIOD.



                      I may have missed a new boxing memo, enlighten me Pachater...

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