Regarding Chagaev's ''Iron Chin''

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  • jcarr71
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    #21
    Yeah Tunney, you're looking foolish with trying to make Valuev credible. You even cited his KO record. Valuev didn't fight anyone with any experience until almost 35 fights into his career. He started and thrived as a circus freak sideshow attraction who was fed people specifcially for him to beat. He improved later in his career and was able to stay a little competitive with better fighters, but he has no ability to hurt them. Ettienne had one of the most fragile chins possible at 200+. Valuev brings nothing to the table in terms of knockout ability.

    Chagaev seems to have a good chin. Sprott and Virchis both hit him a bit and he was unfazed. Just... don't bother waving your white power flag when it comes to Valuev. It is counterproductive.

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    • GatecrasherUA
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      #22
      Chagaev seems to have a good chin. Sprott and Virchis both hit him a bit and he was unfazed.
      Yeah, I read Sprott interview, and he said he hit Chagaev flush with uppercut and all power he's got. Chagaev didn't even flinch. Same man Sprott put Audley Harrison in babysleep with single left hook...

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        #23
        Originally posted by jcarr71
        Yeah Tunney, you're looking foolish with trying to make Valuev credible. You even cited his KO record. Valuev didn't fight anyone with any experience until almost 35 fights into his career. He started and thrived as a circus freak sideshow attraction who was fed people specifcially for him to beat. He improved later in his career and was able to stay a little competitive with better fighters, but he has no ability to hurt them. Ettienne had one of the most fragile chins possible at 200+. Valuev brings nothing to the table in terms of knockout ability.

        Chagaev seems to have a good chin. Sprott and Virchis both hit him a bit and he was unfazed. Just... don't bother waving your white power flag when it comes to Valuev. It is counterproductive.
        I'm not into white power, but when I see someone like Paul750 continually discredits the Klitschkos and every other white boxer for racist reasons, I don't like it.

        I don't like Valuev, I know he isn't a very hard puncher for his size and perhaps wasn't the best example of a Chagaev opponent. But he does have a better career KO ratio than Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes and he is ranked by BoxRec, IBO, The Ring and elsewhere as a current top five heavyweight.
        Last edited by The Hammer; 06-15-2009, 12:58 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GatecrasherUA
          Yeah, I read Sprott interview, and he said he hit Chagaev flush with uppercut and all power he's got. Chagaev didn't even flinch. Same man Sprott put Audley Harrison in babysleep with single left hook...
          Good example.

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          • classicbuzzbox
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            #25


            The funiest thing about this thread is why compare Tua's chin with Chaegev's when they both fought the same man and the results are pretty obvious. Every ****wit in this thread needs a medal.

            *Cue the "Tua was young....blah blah blah" bull*****

            Bunch of pretenders.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ~Tunney
              I don't like Valuev, I know he isn't a very hard puncher for his size and perhaps wasn't the best example of a Chagaev opponent. But he does have a better career KO ratio than Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes and he is ranked by BoxRec, IBO, The Ring and elsewhere as a current top five heavyweight.
              Its funny youre stating his KO ratio as an argument for his "power". This argument would only be valid if they faced the same opposition. I think its safe to say Larry Holmes and Muhammad Ali faced greater opposition Valuev has faced or probably will ever face. Ali and Holmes would probably toy with today's heavyweights with the exception of Wlad and Vitali

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