116-111 for Cotto wasn't that crazy of a score

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  • BoxingChaos
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    #21
    Originally posted by marsman
    that was the gift, a bull**** judge. It's like the judge wanted to make it obvious. 200 - 5 for cotto
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    • MANGLER
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      #22
      Originally posted by We want Floyd
      There were a number of rounds that could've gone either way. Especially the 4th round, which I gave to Cotto. So, 116-111 is not shady. It was a close 116-111

      The thing is, there were rounds were Clottey was landing the cleaner punches, but Cotto was much busier. You can't just land 3-5 clean, crisp punches and think that alone was gonna win the round, unless the opponent wasn't doing much of anything.

      i had it 116-111, some rounds were really tough to score and maybe I should've given it a draw, the 4th round was the toughest one for me. And Cotto pulled away on the championship rounds, all blame goes to Clottey for that one.

      It wasn't so much that Cotto was doing a great job of winning rounds, but Clottey needs to wake up and know that you win fights by actually punching!

      Wrong, just wrong.

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      • Piper the Great
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        #23
        116-111 was way off. i dont even think he watched the fight.

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        • JmH Reborn
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          #24
          Originally posted by Piper the Great
          116-111 was way off. i dont even think he watched the fight.
          I guess we'll have to wait until the card is officially posted.

          But based on how I scored it...if that judge gave r4 to Cotto and then r6 was a 10-8 round, then 116-111 would have happened.

          I'm going to think his card almost mirrors mine except for the rounds in question. I think that we all need to have a look at that

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            #25
            Originally posted by We want Floyd
            There were a number of rounds that could've gone either way. Especially the 4th round, which I gave to Cotto. So, 116-111 is not shady. It was a close 116-111

            The thing is, there were rounds were Clottey was landing the cleaner punches, but Cotto was much busier. You can't just land 3-5 clean, crisp punches and think that alone was gonna win the round, unless the opponent wasn't doing much of anything.

            i had it 116-111, some rounds were really tough to score and maybe I should've given it a draw, the 4th round was the toughest one for me. And Cotto pulled away on the championship rounds, all blame goes to Clottey for that one.

            It wasn't so much that Cotto was doing a great job of winning rounds, but Clottey needs to wake up and know that you win fights by actually punching!
            116-111 for Cotto wasn't that crazy of a score
            this is an example of what happens when you have an inexpierienced judge sitting ringside ground level. the crowd oooing and ahhhhhhing.
            on tv it was obvious clottey was blocking most. and landing more(compubox & observations by manny stewart)
            anyone would scored this 116-111 is an idiot!

            clottey gave the last two rounds to cotto .
            i had it a 114-114 draw. there was no robbery.
            cotto is back!

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            • Pullcounter
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              #26
              Originally posted by We want Floyd
              There were a number of rounds that could've gone either way. Especially the 4th round, which I gave to Cotto. So, 116-111 is not shady. It was a close 116-111

              The thing is, there were rounds were Clottey was landing the cleaner punches, but Cotto was much busier. You can't just land 3-5 clean, crisp punches and think that alone was gonna win the round, unless the opponent wasn't doing much of anything.

              i had it 116-111, some rounds were really tough to score and maybe I should've given it a draw, the 4th round was the toughest one for me. And Cotto pulled away on the championship rounds, all blame goes to Clottey for that one.

              It wasn't so much that Cotto was doing a great job of winning rounds, but Clottey needs to wake up and know that you win fights by actually punching!
              nah, 116-111 is a disgusting score.

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                #27
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                I guess we'll have to wait until the card is officially posted.

                But based on how I scored it...if that judge gave r4 to Cotto and then r6 was a 10-8 round, then 116-111 would have happened.

                I'm going to think his card almost mirrors mine except for the rounds in question. I think that we all need to have a look at that
                you need to take a look at the fight again.
                not wait till card is officially posted half witt!

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                • oosemekh
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                  #28
                  Clottey landed more punches and his were more effective. Cotto has a big heart and he did outwork Clottey in the last 2 rounds although he did no damage. Also just b4 Cotto hit Clottey in the back of head. Clottey landed a good shot and Cotto was upset about it. That referee didnt take points away from Cotto for the slam, or the rabbit punch or the low blow bc he would have gotten lynched by that Puerto Rican crowd. We all know Clottey could not win a close decision thats y that question was raised so many times b4 the fight. Cotto is tough and good fighter but he has flaws he was looking like he wanted to quit in the fight. Also did anyone notice that Clottey was slipping a lot. y didnt Mercante ask for ring to be wiped down. Anyway it was a setup for Cotto Pac-man or Cotto Pretty Boy. Clottey will never get a rematch so I think he should fight Berto so he can at least have a belt for a bargaining chip for bigger fights. Cotto will lose his next fight he has a huge heart but he showed signs of that Margarito fight..Shane and Floyd would capitalize on that. That 116-111 score by that one judge should kinda give a hint that Clottey had to basically knock Cotto out to win. Politics wins again!!!!

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                  • Levcon8686
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                    #29
                    Although not a fair reflection of the fight, I can see how 116-111 could come about.

                    R1: 10-8 Cotto
                    R2: 10-9 Clottey
                    R3: 10-9 Cotto
                    R4: 10-9 Cotto (could have gone either way)
                    R5: 10-9 Clottey
                    R6: 10-9 Cotto
                    R7: 10-9 Clottey
                    R8: 10-9 Clottey
                    R9: 10-9 Cotto (most people gave this to clottey but I found it close)
                    R10:10-9 Cotto (very close, cotto's left hooks in dying seconds enough?)
                    R11:10-9 Cotto
                    R12:10-9 Cotto

                    This works out at 116-111. Obviously he leaned towards cotto in the close rounds but it's not that far fetched in my opinion. I wouldn't straight up shout corruption from the hilltops like Kellerman did etc.

                    Also, if a judge was to fix a score, 114-113 in favour of Cotto would be enough to give to ensure a win on that scorecard. Why blatantly go out of your way to show a big score difference? He can only influence 1/3 of the scorecard one way or another.

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                    • Dan...
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                      #30
                      Not 'crazy', but you really gotta work to get it. It is right on the borderline.

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